Sun 17 Apr 2005
Hyundai Santro Vs. Maruti Suzuki Wagon-R
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When I bought my car, I did a comparison of the available choices. Many friends have been asking me my views on the Hyundai Santro Vs. Maruti Suzuki Wagon-R since these are the most sought after. Both are very popular hatchbacks sold in India. Here are some of my thoughts.
Hyundai being the underdogs is always the first to offer better features such as MPFI engine and ABS. They also tend to be more aggressive and Maruti dealers have the take it or leave it attitude.
Maruti has a bigger service network and the cost of spares it cheaper.
Both cars are tall boy model and have high seating. This add to driving/seating comfort and makes it easy for people to get in and get out.
Here is the comparison.
Santro Pros:
- Better Looks (as compared to Wagon-R).
- More comfortable to Drive.
- Better Service.
- Better Pickup.
- Provision for 4 speakers, Wagon-R has provision for only 2.
- Perceived to be more expensive.
- Air conditioning more effective hence cooling is better.
- Ability to adjust the side view mirrors from inside.
- Seat belts for 5 passengers, Wagon-R has only 4. Santro is also approved for 5 people and Wagon-R has got approval for only 4 passengers. Not that anyone ever checks but still.
Wagon-R Pros:
- Better resale value.
- Cheaper cost of spares.
- Bigger service network than Hyundai.
- Slightly more fuel efficient. Although now Santro has new eRLX engine which is suppose to have improved mileage.
- Better Engine and electronic power steering.
- Cheaper.
- Option for Airbags (only available in the top of the line model).
- Slightly more leg space and better comfort for tall people.
- The seats can be dropped completed to create a bed or even a double bed. Useful while traveling and someone can sleep.
I also suggest that irrespective of which car you decide to buy, don’t compromise on safety. Pay that extra for ABS and Airbags (only in Wagon-R).
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May 3rd, 2005 at 5:49 am
I see that the shock absorbers used in santro and wagon-R are the same and equally good (gas filled).
I found the wagon-R exposing more shock/vibrations than the santro (both were brand new vechilcles, far better than test drive vehicles)
What is this due to ?
Can the slightly wider tyres in santro cause this advantage, I presume that just gives more road grip and and better balance on topling (which wagon-R might lose out on )
Do let me know any inputs on the shock absorbing.
(also both vehciles weigh more-or-less the same [gross))
May 7th, 2005 at 12:43 pm
I haven’t driven Wagon R much but I do find the Santro extremely comfortable in bad road conditions.
May 11th, 2005 at 6:26 am
I own a Wagon R and the Santro was the first car i drove.Beleive me guys,the wagon r has much better pick up and top speed.The santro’s transmission,ride,handling and rear seat comfort are better though.As far sales and service is concerned,Maruti is doing a job that is pretty good.But at the time of sale,Hyundai offers much better explanation of features and is generally very aggressive.As far as safety is concerned,the wagon r’s top model now features both abs and airbags thus offering a much safer package.
May 11th, 2005 at 12:40 pm
Yes the new Wagon-R has some nice additional features such as Airbags and ABS. Santro already has ABS, they don’t have Airbags. But Santro has an option for ABS in any model where as Wagon-R offers it only in the top of the line model. Also if you add the Airbags, Wagon-R becomes as expensive as a mid size car!
My experience with Maruti’s Service hasn’t been bad but in my experience Hyundai’s service was more professional.
May 16th, 2005 at 2:33 am
Wagon r sales have grown 60% compared to last year (santro is ony 19%). Wagon r is the fastest selling model in its category. Wagon R has better techonology, after sales service, better resale value, more space, safety features (ABS, airbags). Competition, what’s that?
May 28th, 2005 at 10:38 am
Santro has been approved for seating 5 people where as Wagon-R has only been approved for 4. This could be a consideration for some.
July 6th, 2005 at 12:39 am
Wagon R design is BAD. It was used originally as Milk Van in Japan :(. I own a Santro and it is superior car both in ride and comfort.
July 7th, 2005 at 1:46 am
I am planning to buy a car and couldnot decide whether to go for Santro(xing) or WagonR.
let me know the better one of these two
July 8th, 2005 at 5:01 am
Where Santro’s looks are better or not but the technology is Korean and in the other hand Wagon R is a Japanese Car. That says it all.
July 9th, 2005 at 7:11 am
I want to buy a car but I’m in a dilemma regarding which one to go for: Hyundai Santro or Zen LXi?
July 10th, 2005 at 9:10 am
Zen is an old design, Both Santro and Wagon R have better design in terms of comfort. This is because of high seating. Its also easier to get in and get out of the car and the internal space is more.
July 22nd, 2005 at 7:24 am
from last few months i was confused whether to go for the santro xing or the wagonR Lxi when i test rided the both then i came to know that the santro is best car in india.
July 23rd, 2005 at 1:01 pm
santro is good luking but wagon r ha a superior engine and better stability at high speeds whaile santro has more egronomic interiors. ask me all ur car related troubles at ishan_cc@yahoo.com………..i promise to answer u free of cost!!!!!!!!!
July 27th, 2005 at 1:41 pm
Wagon R is the best bet and value for money which has a sturdy engine, better mileage (12-13 in City and 18-19 in long drives) and its Power Steering is the best in its category (WagonR/Zen/Santro).
July 27th, 2005 at 11:51 pm
I am planning to buy a car, but in dilemma whether to go for Santro xing XG or WagonR Vxi.
Let me know.
July 28th, 2005 at 12:05 am
East or West…..
SANTRO is the Best…..Wonderful service.. Wonderful Performance and Pleasureful driving experience
August 1st, 2005 at 6:23 am
I taken the test ride of Santro and WagonR. Both of the cars are equally powerful but wagonR takes the advantage in it’s engine quality. WagonR is having gud cutting and the engine is really cool n powerful.
August 5th, 2005 at 2:12 am
I am in a dilemma between Santro and Zen. I have heard that Santro is shaky at speeds above 90kmph. How true is that?
August 24th, 2005 at 10:09 am
wagonr is best reaches about 150 kmp
September 1st, 2005 at 10:38 pm
Dear All,
Can any body comment on Santro XG (giong to be Stop XG model) is better then OX export model lunching .
I like Santro for its look, but I donot know the other part of it like fuel consumption ,Mainteneace and the Engine condition on High speed.
I am thinking of purchasing a car of this segment so which will be better car among Wagon R, Zen, Santro?
regards,
Ram
September 3rd, 2005 at 4:31 am
WagonR is very very very superior to all cars of its category in the matter of pickup and flexibility.Easy U-turns can be taken effortlessly.
The MilkVan in Japan is just a derivative of wagonR and not exactly WagonR.
It is very true that Santro shakes after 90kmph.
I think people that Santro is best have not gone above90kph or have not driven a wagonr.
I always go smoothly through highways at 140-150kmph with easy and flexible overtakings in a WagonR.
What else do you want?The superior japanese technology says it all.
People in confusion for whether a santro or a WagonR may straight away
contact your nearest Maruti dealer and grab a WagonR.
September 4th, 2005 at 10:30 am
hi ,
i am in a great dilemma which one to go for santro XG or wagonr lxi.
advice me
September 8th, 2005 at 4:54 am
wht does ovrm and abs mean
September 9th, 2005 at 12:01 am
I need a brief comparison of Santro, Zen and Wagon-R, very quickly. There is a very good offer from Maruti till 15th. In fact Wagon-R have the best offer, then Zen. Santro is a bit expensive including their offer, though the on-road cost is less.
If I can afford, then Santro is the choice. otherwise what are the pros and cons of Zen & W-R over this? Pls study the engines, pick-up, milage, sitting arrangement, rear passengers comfort, luggege space, spare-parts & maintenance cost. If any possibility of phasing out of these models are there and what is the risk associated in that case.
Look and style-wise my choice Santro-zing>Zen>W-R, is it correct. Pl comment.
Are car loans insured?
September 12th, 2005 at 4:22 am
Hi,
Recently after much R&D between Santro Xing and Wagon R. I finally went for Wagon R. Here are a few reasons.
1) Pricewise whatever features Wagon R Lxi provides is much more than what you get with a Santro at the same price.
2) Wagon R is much more aerodynamically designed which supports the fact that most users over here are happy with its high speed performance. It also has a tremendous pickup.
3) Wagon R is a 16 bit MPFI engine where as Santro is 12 bit. So the fuel efficiency is better in Wagon R.
4) I really liked the power steering. Wagon R has a electronic power steering where as Santro has hydraulic PS. Negotiating curves in the city is much better.
Though I would say I was not much impressed with the shocks after driving through the numerable number of potholes in Pune. Santro I guess has wider tyres. And definitely Santro looks much much better.
But in the end I wanted a car that I can drive for at least 5 yrs (till my car loan gets over :-)) and then get a good resale value which the Santro can never beat.
Thanks
September 13th, 2005 at 5:22 pm
Hi all
I own a WagonR Vxi, its really better compared to Santo xing, the pickup, milege, AC effect………….
Pls. buy WagonR don’t go for Santro….. the engine is not peppy………
September 14th, 2005 at 2:11 am
I am planning to buy a car with AUTOMATIC transmission. If any one have good experience with cars having automatic gears please respond.
September 14th, 2005 at 2:40 am
i have recently purchased wagon r lxi pearl silver…………its a wonderful car …a value for money compared to santro
September 16th, 2005 at 5:39 am
Can any one know what is the mileage of new santro xing xl both city and highway with and without ac. Please let me know, I am planning to buy it.
September 23rd, 2005 at 4:15 am
Hi,
I have just booked my first car - Santro Xing XL (eRLX). I compared this with WagonR but in WagonR, I didn’t like rear seat. It can accommodate only 2. Also, the look was not good. I thought, if I touch 110-120 in highway and try to overtake, it might fall down.
I want to know about the mileage the new eRLX technology offers - with A/C & without A/C in City (Bangalore) and on highways. Please give me more tips about maintaining. I tend to take it out of Bangalore occassionally to places.
September 23rd, 2005 at 12:03 pm
Just look at these differences and then decide,
WGNR Max Speed: 155 kmph as against Xing: 142.2
WGNR Valves/cylinder:4 as against Xing 3
WGNR Mileage: 14.5 kmpl as against Xing 13.2 kmpl
Breaking 80-0 : 35 m as against Xing 38.4 m
apart from 16 bit processor (as against Xing 12 bit), the leg space and height are known positives. Dash board is pretty wide too with a lot of features, More space for lugguage etc. Performance of AC is also better in WGNR.
I agree Santro Xing is better in looks and looks more palatable, but comparing the other features, it is better to sacrifice style and looks and enjoy driving a WagonR.
September 29th, 2005 at 9:55 am
I am in confusion which car is the best SANTRO or ZEN.I have to buy new car and am already using ZEN Lxi for the last two years.
Please advise at the earliest as i Have to buy in next two days.
Thanks in advance.
October 5th, 2005 at 5:42 am
HI all,
I am bit confussed while opting Wagon-R LXi or Santro XL,
My concern is that how much difference comes in comfort if there sits 3 at back???
No doubt as santro hav bit more space at back but Can one sacrifice this for other benifits with Wagon-R, like maintanace cost, leg-room & head-room (as all in my family r of 6′) and a lot many more.
So if the difference in comfort is not so sognificant , I would better go for wagon-R.
& Last but not least - What is the average of both in city??????
thanks & regards
Harish Masand
October 7th, 2005 at 2:46 am
Hi !!
I have recently booked a santro xing eRLX xo model i was previously using a santro xing xg model, the reason for me to buy another santro was because santro has always been improving on its quality eversince day 1, i took the new santro xing eRLX for the test ride, this new model has a better pick up and more power and i belive that this ones gonna give better mileage aswell, so i thought lets pick it up, since my driving is almost 70 km/day i need a more fuel effecient car, as far as comfort is concerned its a perfect 5 seater car, with ample leg soon in the front & sufficient legs room in the rear.
Cheers !
October 7th, 2005 at 7:37 am
Hi,
I have been a Wagon R LXi owner for over 4 years now and have done 60K kms on my car. It’s an extremely practical car for everyday use. And I think the new Wagon R with integrated indicators and all defiitely looks quite smart though may not be as curvy as the Santro.
I am now upgrading to a new car but I am really in two minds of giving up the Wagon R considering that it is extremely practical for everyday use in all respects.
October 8th, 2005 at 12:12 am
I own both the Wagon R vxi bs3 and Santro Zing XS Erlx.
My commnets
My wagon R has run 26000 kms.
Wagon R +ves
Smoother, powerfull and fuel efficient.
Interiors go with the exterior of the car. A sensible dashboard.
Does not look like stable but is better than santros stability on highways.
Braking efficiency is defeniely better than santro.
Cost of maintenance is really whopping lower than santro.
-Ves
Only comfortable for 4.
Airconditioning is not as good as santro
Gear shift is a little notchy when compared to santro’s crispy gear shift.
Does not look as good as the santro.
Service is good if we are a little knowleageable about our own cars problems else problems are negleted by the service dealers.
On an average i have spent only 30% of the money i spent on my santro for maintenance. One more sure shot point is that santro’s fuel efficiency drops to 9 Kmpl in peak traffic with Aircon. I can bet on that. Wagon R is better on that with an average of 11.5 Kmpl with aircon in worst traffic conditions.
Though the Hyndai is more appealing and customer care is very good the car does not seem to do justice for its cost. Most often the cost of regular maintenance is also unjustifyable. It almost is equalent to my Opel Corsa’s billing. Quite annoying for this small a car!
October 10th, 2005 at 1:34 am
I am going to buy santro xing , i in delimma whether i go for alto ofr xing , which car has good milage.
October 13th, 2005 at 3:56 am
Hi Saj,
I have recenlty bought Santro Xing Automatic car. It’s been very good so far. Driving is prettly cool. Mileage is somewhere around 9 to 9.5 km/litre so far. Will probably improve after first service.
What else do you want to know ?
Thanks,
Niraj
October 16th, 2005 at 8:44 am
Hello,
Of course, santro Xing with eRLX technology can beat any cars in its segment. It gives me 15kms in hyderabad city conditions and 22kms in highways without Airconditioners.
October 18th, 2005 at 12:55 am
I own a santro automatic since 6 months. The car is very very cool
to drive on congested roads. One wonders why such cars are not
popular in India. The only drawback is the milage. I get around 10-12
in the city ! On long drives..its gives about 14-16. My observation is
that if you don’t accelerate/deaccelerate too rapidly..you get better
milage. Also, one can put a CNG kit, this may help out.
October 18th, 2005 at 6:24 am
i am a proud owner of wagon r lxi since last 2 years.its a very peppy car and with new looks no other car in category comes closer.
October 19th, 2005 at 5:56 am
hi all
I want to buy a used Santro, model wud be 1998/1999. Is it possible to have the car with just Rs 1 Lac.
plz advice
October 20th, 2005 at 1:43 am
Can any one tell me when was Santro Xing Xo model launched in Mumbai. Actually there was a lot of flooding in Mumbai on July 26. A lot of new cars in showroom were submerged under water. I am going to buy a santro Xing XO soon. Please revert fast. Its very urgent.
November 1st, 2005 at 7:28 am
Can you plz tell me what is the length,width comparison of Wagan R and Santro Xing. Thanks
November 2nd, 2005 at 10:12 am
Hi
I am peter from coimbatore. I own a Zen Euro 1 which i purchased just a year back. The car is pretty good. Now i have a good offer for the car, besides i wanna give it off because it is a euro 1 car. I am keen to know abt the santro ERLX….can u suggest on the pros and cons, especially on the fuel efficiency…do reply..
November 7th, 2005 at 7:46 am
Just now I brought new santro xo with erlx. Its impresive. The pick is very good. Suitable for city conditions. I am a new for car driving, still in a city link bangalore I am getting average of 13 kmpl.
Thanks & Regards,
Mahesh
November 8th, 2005 at 7:36 am
Hi,
I purchased Santro XL 1 month back from Advaith, Bangalore. The car lacks good A/C. No leg room in rear seat. The engine seems to get heated too quickly. Pickup is good. Mileage is bad.
Also, I didn’t find Advaith friendly. They haven’t still delivered spoiler for me. Just before 1 day of delivery, they called and told they dont have the stock in the colour I preferred and I have to wait for 1 more week. I quaralled and got it. I dont know from where they got that time.
Please bargain well if someone is purchasing there.
Prahlad
November 11th, 2005 at 1:35 am
Hi proud owners of Wagon R.
Thanks for your inputs.Now I will go ahead with my plans of booking WagonR primea today itself.
November 11th, 2005 at 10:02 am
which car have more higher seat, wagon R or Santro
November 16th, 2005 at 7:24 am
Hi ,
I learnt driving on a Santro and purchased a WagonR Lxi. Our family has both types of car. I prefer using WagonR as it has a better luggage space than a Santro. I am 6 feet hieghted person hence i find WagonR more comfortable as compared to Santro.
While driving both cars give me almost the same feel except the during driving on rough roads Santro is much better to handle..
Pickup and fuel economy is slightly better for WagonR as compared Santro.
Overall both are good cars..
Guys buy any one you want and enjoy… after all car is for you needs which car you want is a personal opinion…
regards and best wishes to all new car purchasers
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:44 am
Hi,
I am confused whether to buy Wagon-R or Santro. I dont bother about paying more. But I want safety and comfort and also better mileage .
Please help me.
Thanks in Advance.
November 24th, 2005 at 10:22 am
I find the Santro more comfortable. The new Santro has also improved mileage significantly.
Also consider the ABS option which is available on both Santro and Wagon R and are good safety features to have.
The Wagon-R has also an option for Air Bags which is good to have if you are concern about Safety.
November 27th, 2005 at 4:37 am
santro has a special scheme from 24th to 28th nov. discount is about rs 34k.
just booked a santro xl for 3.69 lakhs.
November 30th, 2005 at 3:41 am
hi
i was looking for a comparison between a santro, swift , wagonR n getz.can anyone provide me with it?
regds
November 30th, 2005 at 11:35 am
Hi Neha,
Santro and Wagon R are both hatchbacks and fall under the same category. You can read the comparison on this page.
While Swift and Getz fall under the premium hatchbacks which offer more space, comfort and features then both Santro and Wagon R. They also cost more.
Read my first impressions about the swift.
http://cityblogger.com/archives/2005/08/06/maruti-suzuki-swift-first-impressions
December 2nd, 2005 at 1:17 am
hi,
after going through all the discussion above, it seems wagon r beats santro in most conditions… however, i have driven wagon r quite a bit and i feel it a bit sluggish in pickup with ac in full flow. also due to its thick side bars (i think thats what they are called), there is a troublesome blind spot on the right hand side… at some angles you don’t see anything… in fact i scratched the car (the only time in my driving of 4 years) on a parked motor bike at a speed of less than 1 kms per hour… didn’t see till i touched the bike. also, reversing on wagon r is a bit difficult as compared to other cars like zen, 800 (haven’t driven santro that much)… gears are also a problem area, though could be overcome
prakash, would appreciate your views on the above… is the blind spot and reversing an issue only with me or others too find it problematic?
rgds,
nitin
December 3rd, 2005 at 10:43 pm
Hi Nitin,
Blind Spots are a problem with some cars. How much of a problem people face in the Wagon-R, I would let them express their opinion. I drive a Santro.
I find that a problem with the Santro too, but I use the side view mirrors to manage them. LIke tilting the side view mirrors downwards during reverse parking helps.
Similarly you can put a small mirror (you would see a similar mirror in the SUVs for reversing) behind if you find thid that a problem often. This mirror can be put at the rear end of the car pointing downwards.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Prakash
December 7th, 2005 at 6:21 am
Is there difrence between Santro xing erlx xo v/s XG/XS model. which one is better.Showroom guy told me that earlier xo model was known as XS.
Plz revert back as i need your help……
December 9th, 2005 at 10:01 am
Both the XG and XS Model have been replaced by XO as per Hyundai.
December 13th, 2005 at 4:14 am
Guys,
I bought santro xing last week of November. They cliams its eRlx. They have not given stiker of eRlx and saying that santro has stopped giving eRlx stickers. I have a doubt that, whether I bought old version or new version. The make of the car is 10/2005.
Can you guys help me in this regard.
Thanks,
Ram
December 13th, 2005 at 5:56 am
Hi Prakash! Is there any difference between electronic power steering offered in Wagon R & hydraulic power steering offered in Santro Xing eRLX? How will it affect the fuel efficiency? Is it better to go for a non-power steering version for better fuel efficiency?
Pl help…..
Regards,
Manish
December 13th, 2005 at 10:01 am
Hi Manish,
Yes the electronic power steering provides better mileage than the hydraulic power steering since the hydraulic power steering relies on the engine where as the electronic power steering uses a separate electric motor.
However in reality this shouldn’t make that much of a difference. Also the
Santro Xing eRLX has improved mileage so the difference would be even minimal.
Avoid a car without power steering, the pleasure and the comfort that a power steering provides is definitely worth the little mileage that you may lose.
Also while calculating mileage, you must also calculate how much you are going to spend over 3-4 years that you will own the car.
For example:
If a car A provides mileage of 10 Kms/litre and another car B provides 11 Kms/litre. Today fuel cost is Rs. 50/litre.
Cost of Car A: Rs. 5 Per Km.
Cost of Car B: Rs. 4.5 per Km.
Difference Rs. 0.5 per Kms.
If you live in a large city and drive to work everyday and drive 50 Kms per day and assue you drive to work 200 days in a year, thats still 10,000 Kms a year.
So if you buy Car A you are spending Rs. 5000 extra per year.
If you own the car for 5 Years, it would be spending Rs. 25000 extra per year.
I did a similar calculation when I was deciding to buy a Petrol car or a Diesel and realised to just to recover the extra cost of the Diesel car, I would need to drive 15,000 Km/year. So I decided to go for a petrol car.
Hope this helps.
December 13th, 2005 at 10:58 am
Hi,
I am planning to buy a Wagon R.
I have just learned to a drive a car & not fully comfortable so should I worry much about Blind spots & reversing as nitin has mentioned??
Also is it a good choice over Santro Xing XL???
Thanks in advance!!
December 13th, 2005 at 11:05 am
I rcentaly book Wagon R. Now i cancel my booking for Wagon-R and purchased SANTRO Xing.Santro do’t stop giving eRLX stickers.My city is Amritsar and our city’s maruti dealer ” SWANI MOTORS” cheats on my booking money. They said its non refundable.Maruti have ony one car that have resale value and that is ZEN.In second hand car market their are very few santro’s because very few people wants to sale santro. And beleive me their are no takers for second hand Wagon-R.
December 15th, 2005 at 9:37 am
I would suggest for a person who has just learned to drive, buy a second hand car so that you get comfortable with driving and managing a car before you buy a new car. Also if an old car get damaged, you don’t feel so bad.
You should test drive both the cars before buying. In general Santro is an easlier to drive.
December 15th, 2005 at 11:52 am
Hi Prakash,
I am 6″ tall.
I am confusing between SantroXL and Wagon R Lxi. Use of car is 25Km/day and weekends outings max of 150kms.
I need good comfort with fuel economy.
Can you suggest which one I will have to choose.
Please reply ASAP because WagonR scheme is ending by 20th Dec.
December 15th, 2005 at 5:27 pm
Raja,
The Wagon R is suppose to be better for tall people where as the Santro is easy to ride. The fuel efficiently of both the cars is similar. With your usage, fuel economy shoudn’t be your top priority.
Regards
Prakash
December 16th, 2005 at 2:52 am
Hi Gang,
First of all kudos to Prakash for maintaining this Blog!!!This gives a common platform for people to discuss concerns which wouldnt hav been otherwise.
I had set my mind for a Wagon R over the Santro after a lot of consulting.
But once I had look at both the cars I completely surrendered to the looks,styling,comfort of the Santro Xing!!!
You should get that *feeling* & excitement that you are in car!But this didnt happen in WagonR…I found myself to be in a van rather than a car.
Still I feel performance(control,mileage) & technology(16 valves as compared to 12 in santro,16 - Bit Electronic Control Module (ECM),Electronic Power Steering vs Santro’s Hydralic,japan/korea,) in Wagon R is better but still I am totally mesmerised by Santo’s comfort & styling.
Also I am sure that for 4-5 years these pros I hav mentioned for Wagon R does not play a major roll….as I plan to sell it off after 5 yrs
So I decided on Santro Xing XL eLRX finally!!!
So Guys how many are on my side???
December 16th, 2005 at 9:14 am
I just purchased Santro Xing Eralx.. Now I am thinking i had to purchase the moder with power steering..
can anybody tell me that is it possible to add power steering now.
December 17th, 2005 at 12:58 am
Thanks, Prakash, for your valuable inputs! I had almost made up my mind on buying a Santro Xing eRLX after getting mostly positive feedback from my colleagues who are having Santro. Also, Hyundai is currently offering huge discounts on Santro. So, after going thru your comments, I went ahead & sealed the deal. Cheers!
December 18th, 2005 at 10:44 am
I just buy Santro Xing xk eRLX. It is really a good car and good value for money. Only big vehicles needs power steering.These cars[ santro, wagon r] are small cars and very easy to handle.Secondly Power steering cost cars are bit expensive [ rs21000- rs26000]. As far as i know Power steering can’t be added to non power steering santro.Hyndai giving 35000 cash discounts on santro and wagon r too giving rs 35000 discount[insurance12000+acc 23000],4000/ more if ur govt. employee and 3000/ if ur from corporate sector. Wagon-R is only a 4 seater and mostly people called it a van, dabba[box].
December 19th, 2005 at 1:00 pm
I am a proud Santro Owner thanks to the attitude of Maruti (both the company and the dealers). Planned to go for a WagonR till I came face to face with the Maruti breaucracy. Well then went in for a test drive of the Santro and to make the long story short, am now a Santro owner. Read the coments on this page and thought I should make my experience known to try and right some misconceptions.
Had to recently drive my Santro from Ahmedabad to Pune and touched speed of 130-140 and felt no vibrations whatsoever that some have claimed on this site.
As far as the mileage goes the vehicle is giving me 19+ on highways on power petrol and my running-in is not yet over.
I am very particular about the dealer response which till now has been fantastic ( I felt I was the buyer contrary to the Maruti were it felt that I was selling the vehicle and the dealer Kiran Motors of Ahmedabad bahaved as if they were customer–the take it or lump it, I care two hoots attitude).
Can expect more of my postings in due course. At the end of the day each Santro and WagonR has got it’s own individual pluses and minuses. But one thing is certain Maruti with thier attitude and dealer arrogance is bound to see an erosion of thier market leadership the way Bajaj experienced the past decade in the two wheeler segment. Good for us in the long run……….
December 19th, 2005 at 1:33 pm
Hi Prakash, it is gr8 to see so many mesages here. I am planning to buy a car confused b/n santro and zen .Not interested in Wagon R. I just dont like the look. From your comments above i see ur a bit biased towards santro. Try to take a neutral view on SANTRO vs ZEN.
Thanks
Cyril
December 20th, 2005 at 9:59 am
Hi Cyril,
First Santro and Zen are not exactly the same type of cars. Its like comparing apples and oranges.
Santro like Wagon-R is tall boy where as the the Zen seating is much lower.
Santro Advantage over Zen:
Better comfort due to tall boy.
More space.
New design hence better.
Zen Advantage:
Better Mileage
Cheaper to maintain.
Maruti’s wide service network.
December 23rd, 2005 at 12:59 am
Hi San! I have just purchased a Santro Xing eRLX - XL variant (with A/c, power steering, front power windows & central locking). Could you please inform which variant you were driving & whether the mileage of 19+ was with AC on/off.
December 27th, 2005 at 2:13 am
Hi All,
If you can post the cost of ownership and other things with Data then it can be great for people to make decision
like:
km/lt
service and maintenence
spare etc…
What I could conclude after reading…
both cars are good
WagonR is better in milage ( difference is lesser in newer version)
Cost of spare or maintenece is better for WagonR
There is no comparision in looks. Santro is winner.specially Xing and above
Probably no much difference in stability at higher speeds
Gearing is bad and steering is better in WagonR
Resale is better for wagonR ( may be because of Maruti and may not because of WagonR)
Hey if resale is higher than is a WagonR better option for Used car buyer ?
Also newer WagonRs (After 2004) have more customer satisfaction than Santro
What I think that …
If you prefer looks and comfort > Santro
If you eyes on Cost of ownership > WagonR
December 27th, 2005 at 2:14 am
and Also Space is more in Santro as it is 5 seater
December 27th, 2005 at 9:37 am
Santro has no stability issues at high speeds. I drove the Santro Xing at 140 Km/hr and it was quite stable.
December 28th, 2005 at 8:06 am
Hi Manish purchased an XO. Drove without the AC (used it barely for 15 minutes)
December 29th, 2005 at 8:40 am
Hey…if anyone bought a the Santro at Advaith,Bangalore recently,can you tell me what all accessories you got free from the dealer & what are a must hav accessories.I am going for the XL model.
December 30th, 2005 at 5:58 am
Free Accessories with Santro- Body cover, Mud flap, Number Plate and Mat.
January 1st, 2006 at 3:58 am
Hi Prakash
thanks for this blog! The freewheeling advice, personal comments from owners and potential buyers [and of course ur expert commets] is really informative.
A request - can buyers on this blog please publish their on road price for Santro Xing eRLX with info on accessories that were given free by their respective dealers?
January 2nd, 2006 at 12:33 am
I recently purchased a WagonR LX from Noida. Here In Noida SANTRO dealer is not good, and Maruti has two big dealers. I just wanted to know fuel average with / with out AC ,I should expect from my CAR. Also, Is there any problem with WagonR, If I decide to fit my car with CNG
January 3rd, 2006 at 10:27 am
Base model Santro with AC is around 3.40 lakh outside mumbai.
January 3rd, 2006 at 1:32 pm
hi all..
nice blog !
after much much research on this topic people.. i suggest from my part that though both cars have their own pros & cons.. but for a long-termer and practically thinking.. the Wagon R is definitely a better pick than the Santro Xing Erlx.. and specially the Lxi version of the Wagon R is the temptiest pick.. Japanese technology is renowned for reliability.. forget Korean !
close your eyes & trust the good old Maruti people..
go for the Wagon R !!!
Thanks.
January 5th, 2006 at 9:04 am
Santro non ac 2.88 lakh and ac model starts at 3.46, with power steering 3.78 lakh and goes on.
January 5th, 2006 at 10:35 am
Hello All, I have decided to purchase Santro eRLX XO model after a months research. I have heard that Hyundai is offering some good discounts at their recent Roadshows in various cities, does anybody have a clue what are they offering. If their deal is good then I can wait until the roadshow comes to our city (Baroda).
January 6th, 2006 at 12:06 am
Thanks Ajay.
Hi Sanjay -the deals as I understand were for the Dec sale of old santro stock-a dealer in Hyd was offering MP3 player, seat covers, mud flaps mats as free accessories. The dealer now says that Santro prices have been hiked by Rs8000/- across all models but the Hydundai corporate has not announced any new year scheme so far- expect to hear after Jan 10th only.
January 6th, 2006 at 6:44 am
All,
With all this discussion, i have decided to go n purchase WagonR Lxi in Delhi/Noida Region.
Let me know what accesories i should get as default. Also any discount going on these days?
Will i be benifited from Cash Down payment. Any Idea??
January 7th, 2006 at 2:01 am
Hi Guys
Am purchasing a car for the first time. have booked a santro xing XL (erlx) and am expecting delivery with 10 days. I got a very heavy discount from the dealer and hence he is not giving me any free accessories. Would request your opinion as to which basic accessories shoud I be buying and do I need to buy them from a dealer or from outside ?
Thanks a lot and regards.. kayo
January 7th, 2006 at 10:47 pm
Buy acc. from outside because acc. in showrooms are higly priced in the name of genuine.I got discount of 35000on buying santro xk and also get free acc. like mud flap, mats, number plate and car cover.Now the price of xk model is 3.46 lakh.I buy this cat paying 3.05 lakh only.
January 9th, 2006 at 1:31 am
Hi kayo, Let us know the price that you have bought and the city, so its easier to explain.
January 9th, 2006 at 7:45 am
I am also planning to buy Santro eRLX. Can you mention, how much discount you have got from the dealer, please
January 10th, 2006 at 3:55 am
Hi Ajay/Sathya/Rohit.
Will try and answer all your questions.
The car is being purchased from Mumbai. The on road cost of the car was 410500 (cost+ins+registration). I got a dealer discount of Rs 50,000 and a futher discount of Rs 17,000 on a 2.75 lacs loan taken (was able to get a higher discount sice it is a Dec 2005 model, though I will be registering it this week).
Rohit, I doubt you will get a very high discount, since yours will be a Jan 2006 model + the prices of the santro cars have been hiked by Rs 9000 in the past fortnight. However do let me know, what is the final on road cost you will need to pay.
Could any of you also let me know if the car warranty would be getting affected by having music systems/central locking fitted from outside rather than the dealer ?
Sorry for asking some basic questions but this is the first car I am buying, hence need all the help I can get.
Thanks a lot and regards
kayo
January 10th, 2006 at 10:28 am
I can understand your point. I am getting only 30,000 Discount. Can You please further elaborate how you have got 17,000 discount on loan taken and from where you have taken the loan. I am planning for a loan from ICICI. Does he provide such discounts.
January 14th, 2006 at 10:15 am
Hi Kayo,
Can you please tell me from where you have got the discount on Loan. Does ICICI or HDFC provide such facilily. Can you give me the name and phone number of the dealer from whom you have purchsed
Thanks in advance
January 14th, 2006 at 10:26 am
Hi Kayo,
I would like to know the name of finance company providing discount on loans. Also let me know the dealer name from whom u hv bought the santro with phone.
Thanks in advance
January 15th, 2006 at 3:39 am
I am planning to buy Santro xing for my father(Rajahmundry) and currently i am staying out of India. Can any body help me to decide the model and the current market price. I am thinking of XG model.
January 15th, 2006 at 9:45 am
Hi Kayo,
Warranty of car have nothing to do with music system or central locking.
January 16th, 2006 at 8:41 am
Looks like Santro is a better option.
But one more thing better in WagonR is the seats.
No one in these car segment offers seat that fully recline.
One more thing. Iheard in WagonR you cant have speakers at back. Is it TRUE?
Thanks
Kamlesh
January 20th, 2006 at 3:46 am
Hi, I am planning to buy Santro Xing XO model. Can anyone tell me what is the best deal / discounts offered for XO 2006 model.
January 21st, 2006 at 10:31 am
Hello All,
Finally purchased a Santro eRLX XO model, excellent car!. I have driven around 250 Kms and I am quite satisfied by the performance. I have following aspects to share.
1. Santro is a ergonomically designed car, seats comfortable, outside view excellent. Gears located at correct place and dashboard very well organised.
2. I liked the storage space provided, apart from the glove box the drawer below the driver seat is extremely useful and spacious too.
3. Pick-up is great and extremely smooth.
4. Gear shifting is also smooth and requires very little effort, the gear stick just glides into the correct slot.
My second choice was Wagon-R, but after driving Santro eRLX I think I have made a very wise choice. I think one should not bother the difference about Wagon-R giving more average, the difference is negligible to be considered as a buying incentive.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:05 am
Hi all! I have been driving my new Santro XL since more than a month now & clocked 1100+ km so far. Recently travelled about 850 km on highway. Average speed was 60-70 kmph, however, went upto max 90 kmph. No stability issue. Got a better than expected mileage of 19-20 kmpl (with AC on 50% of the time).
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:38 pm
Hi all! Santro and WagonR are equally(almost) good… WagonR has a slight advantage over Santro.. the reason being cheaper spares, maruti dealer network, better ride(believe me, the ride qaulity is a bit better than Santro), stability (it is not true that santro is more stable in highways). Santro is slightly better in City while WagonR holds up on highways. WagonR has a max speed which is about 15km/hr more than Santro. The mileage of both the cars are almost same, but mostly depending upon how you drive it. The 5 seater- 4 seater thing is very meaningless. Both the cars are comfortable for 4 people, and 5 can be squeezed in. Santro is just about 5cm wider.. and has an extra seat belt! But WagonR interior is very versatile, clever. You can recline all the seats, make it like bed, fold the back seats and use it for luggage space etc.
The look is very subjective. I personally do not believe that any of there are any good lookwise. Santro can be called a TOY, or a FOOTBALL or a glorified RIKSHAW, and WagonR a BOX or a MILKVAN. To me, WagonR looks like a miniSUV.. of course you get used to the looks after sometime and start falling in love with it.. be it a Santro or a Wagon. Regarding the resale vale, it doesn’t differ much for these cars.
So guys, choose yours… mine is a lovely little WagonR.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:43 pm
I forgot to mention one thing.. the gearshift.. it’s much better in Santro, and the switches… like the power window buttons and A/C knobs etc are of better quality in Santro. WagonR VXi comes with a Tacometer but none of the Santros has it.
January 23rd, 2006 at 4:33 am
Hi, I am planning on buying a santro eLrx. However I got confused after checking the past few comments about the discount etc. I was talking to 2 dealers a Hyundai dealer for a santro and a maruti dealer for Wagon-R.
My Hyundai dealer is very firm that only 10K accessories are free with the 2006 Jan santro.
1)Please give me pointers to where you are getting discounts in cash.
2)Are these because you are taking a loan from Hyundai @ 9.5 %???
Please write to me at vinhinduja@rediffmail.com
January 23rd, 2006 at 1:20 pm
Hey prakash,
A great blog…..
Am planning to upgrade to Santro/Wagon R from M 800. The new model is Erlx XL .
Need some guidelines on the mileage and spare parts cost…
January 28th, 2006 at 11:00 am
Anirban: The mileage of Wagon R used to be slightly better but after Santro introduced ERLX engine, the difference is marginal but still Wagon would be better. If you are moving from Maruti 800 you would find the cost of spares of both the cars expensive cause 800 spares are so cheap. But still Santro spares would be more expensive.
I discussed this with a friend of mine who owns a Santro for 6 years and he says that he hasn’t replaced any major spares except once. His only cost is routine maintenance.
So when you consider cost of spares, also consider how often do you need to replace them and that depends on the driving conditions and how you drive.
January 28th, 2006 at 11:25 am
Review the statistics at the below site for true information. So anyone claiming 19/22/ kmpl regardless of the type of rocket fuel is a duffer. Just shows their Bias.
http://marutiudyog.com/bp/prodwagon.htm
At the santro site it is
http://www.santroxing.com/santroMain.asp?pagename=tech_comp
With regards to the looks, I always loved the Matiz when compared to the Santro or the Wagon R. Just hated the looks of two standing frogs. Too froggish for my liking. But the manufacturers have thoughtfully added a lot of interior features which are in fact quite good (for the santro). The exteriors are also matched to the interiors. (Not the reverse) In comparision the Wagon R is a little plasticky but more functional inside. Review the inside features as provided in the brochure.
Both are similar in terms of suspension. But the tall boy is Wagon R being 70 mm taller. How does that make a difference? Unless you have a lot of luggage for the rear.
One of the main reasons for me opting for the Wagon R is the seating. Though both cars are capable of seating 4 comfortably (and 5 with Adjust Maadi) the rear of the WagonR is quite spacious if you fold the seats. In fact the luggage space it holds is cavernous.
When you have a lot of lugging especially to and fro from the airport or when going on journeys where a lot of luggage is expected, then you can fold the seats to provide more luggage space. Also if you can fold the front seat, you have a recling bed as in an international flight.
Now that’s the problem. The Wagon R is used as an SUV in Japan, not as a car. And the Wagon R is more of a car than an SUV. So each stands out with their own features. (In Japan it was 660cc)
The performance of the newer Santro Xing is slightly more faster than a Wagon R. (0-60 Wagon R is half a second behind) But otherwise both are the same in terms of speeds. Don’t tell me you actually want to test the maximum.
And as Indians, if it’s the price and the mileage then forget that.(Fuel Efficiency = 14.15 km/l for Wagon R and Fuel efficiency = 13.3 km/l for Santro as determined by Autocar 2004) Forget it because it would eventually be the same based on your driving skills.
Base your decision on your purpose. Think what is your purpose. One is a car and one is an utility vehicle.
And if you want to review the prices visit the manufacturer sites. All auto manufacturers provide pricing based on regions.
The Wagon R does have a lot of plus points for me. It suits my needs.
January 28th, 2006 at 11:26 am
Sorry, the below precedes the above post.
In 2001, my sister purchased a second hand wagon R. After using it for quite some time, and comparing with my friends Santro, I decided to make my purchase for the Wagon R. Why?
Continue to earlier post..
January 28th, 2006 at 11:24 pm
Padrevaters: Good feedback. Did you know you can drop down the Santro seats and fold it again and create a huge boot space? If you do that you can only seat 2 but is a great way to create additional space if you need to carry things around.
January 30th, 2006 at 5:00 am
Padrevaters - I strongly object to your statement that “So anyone claiming 19/22/ kmpl regardless of the type of rocket fuel is a duffer. Just shows their Bias.”
You, being such an intelligent person, should know that the mileage given in Autocar 2004/Maruti website is for older Santro Xings & not for the newer ones with eRLX (Euro-III) engines which were launched only in 2005. Secondly, the reported mileage is the overall mileage which may consist of any ratio of highway/city driving. For all you know, it may be the mileage in city only. Highway mileage is much more than city mileage as any of the so-called duffers can tell you.
I stand by my earlier post that my car gives 19-20 kmpl on HIGHWAYS. Overall, the fuel efficiency is atleast 17.5 kmpl with a mix of 20% city & 80% highway driving (I have filled 70 litres petrol after taking delivery of my car & clocked 1228 kms). And yes, I use 87-88 octane “speed” petrol and not any rocket fuel.
January 30th, 2006 at 8:12 am
Hello all you guys. Sorry could not reply for some time now. Am giving details of all the questions asked from me.
1. I got the car from Krishna Motors (showrooms in Mulund and Thane). You can contact Madhuri at 56007065 and give my name. This is a multi car showroom which stocks everything from maruti’s to Mitsubishi’s (they procure the cars from the main dealers) and hence offer better discounts than the main dealers.
2. As I had mentioned earlier Santro was officially offering Rs 40K discount for Dec ‘2005 models. (You cud have the registration done in 2006) I bargained a bit with Krishna Motors and was able to get a 50K discount. I know Citibank and ICICI Bank offer 5% of the loan amount taken as discount (I think from Jan onwards, Citi would only be financing Maruti cars…the Citicorp Maruti tie up). You can ask the dealer about the discount offered by banks on the loan amount. Am sure you would receive a positive response. I haggled a bit on the loan discount also and got it. On a 275000 loan, I was entitle to get Rs 13750 (@ 5%) as discount, which I stretched to Rs 17,000. My EMI for a 5 yr loan of Rs 275000 is coming to 5880 per month.
3. I feel you might not be able to get better deals at the present moment bcoz of a} Company has hiked prices by Rs 8000 b} Mine was a Dec 2005 model, hence the better bargain I could get.
4. The prices for the current models at Krishna Motors are
XL version -
————
On road cost Rs 418483 (inclusive of regn/octroi/insurance
Dealer discount Rs 24000
Less- 5% discount of loan amount
XO version
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On road cost - Rs 447800
Dealer Discount - Rs 24000
Less- 5% discount of loan amount
5. Veera, I think the company has stopped mnfg the XG models. The XL model now comes with power steering/ac/front power windows and key central locking (i think these features were previously present in the XG model)
regds
kayo
January 31st, 2006 at 3:04 pm
Hello everyone!
I am glad to see online discussions like in other hi-tech countries.
I am trying to understand which make-model is for me. Can any one let me know about any specials in 2006 models of both WagonR and Sentro Xing. I am planning to buy Automatic Transmission due to some reasons (one of them I drive AT in usa, secondly I want to have my family an easy card driving experience in india).
Thank you for your comments which made me learning so much about these two models.
MD
February 1st, 2006 at 11:03 am
My Santro giving me 15+ km/lit. in city and 19+ km/lit. on higway.Mine is e-RLX model.With 20 Litre of Petrol It goes 300+ kms in City and 375+ kms on highway.
February 4th, 2006 at 3:41 pm
Hi,
I am confussed about buying zen or wagon R.
I had tried santro and Indica. But santro is not so impressive and Indica becomes a TRUCK after 2 years.
I am looking for good Average and Pickup in city(poona).
Mandar
February 4th, 2006 at 3:49 pm
I am a proud owner of a Maruti(1996) and clocked 73000 KM. With the lowest maintainance cost( same as my bike) and I gives me 19kmpl on highway cond.
Can any techinical staff from Maruti give me an Idea how to take extra of it. some details abt engine worn out. I was told by many mech. that the life of the petrol engine is 1,00,000. KM is that true. Dose maruti takes care of such old cars?
Please reply
Regards
Mandar
February 5th, 2006 at 3:55 am
If someone is not impress by santro then he should buy wagon-r instead of zen.
February 6th, 2006 at 10:19 am
Hi All,
Can any one please throw some light as to which Automatic is better - Wagon R or Santro Xing.
I think toll boy design of these cars is handicap friendly, providing easy ingress for elderly and handicapped.
I want to buy one of these, after I found out in Honda City (old) driver’s as well as rear seats are not comfortable.
Thanks
Dan
February 8th, 2006 at 9:51 am
Dan
I agree with you. Even I did that study and could not find AT in any other then these two which has foldable seats and all. Just to share with you, I felt that WagonR is little better choice as it has a largest Maruti network and if you overlook the style-look it has almost 180 degree reclinable seats which is much better for some elder person. AT is just not being used for Phisically challanged person but AT is actuly a smart choice if you want to drive in city limits with heavy traffic.
Any one has any idea of new add-ons on 2006 models of both WagonR AX and Sentro Xing AT?
Thank you!
MD
February 10th, 2006 at 11:44 am
Santro xing AT have 4 gears automatic transmission whereas Wagon R have only 3 gears automatic transmission. Santro AT’S mileage and pickup is better than Wagon-R in heavy traffic.
February 13th, 2006 at 9:08 am
I am told for highway use WagonR is much better than Santro.
Other plus points seem to be better A/C and suspension.
Is Santro AT’s mileage ( and gearbox) really that superior so as to compensate other plus points of WagonR- AX ?
Any expert around?
Thanks
February 16th, 2006 at 9:18 am
Hi MD,
Did you buy the Automatic you were looking for?
Dan
February 17th, 2006 at 1:23 pm
Hi,
Santro is Korean while Wagon R is Japanese. Having said that Iam not telling that all Korean products are inferior and that of Japanese are superior. However, I personally feel that as far as Santro Xing and Wagon R, are concerned, the latter is a superior one. Reasons are
1. Wagon R engine is superior, more powerful, and cool
2. Wagon R is having the state of art electronic power steering while Santro is having the outdated hydraulic PS which is atleast 30 years old technology.
3. Strictly speaking, both cars are good for 4 perons only. The statement that Santro is 5 seater and Wagon R is 4 seater is just meaningless.
4. Boot space is better for Wagon R. Even the biggest type VIP briefcase can be easily kept in a Wagon R while it is not possible for Santro.
5. In general the maintenance cost of Santros is much much more than that of WagonRs. This is a general opinion and not an isolated case.
February 23rd, 2006 at 2:27 am
Hey guys iam a person having a wagonr vxi and santro xg. According to me both cars are having its own advantages and disadvantages. In speed,stability,mileage,power,ac cooling and styling both are almost similar. In case of suspension santro gives little more comfort. If wagon r is having alloy wheels it gives added comfort. The interior ……Dash board and other finishes are good in wagonr. Steering superb in wagonr.gear shift santro slightly better. Braking both same. rear seating santro more leg space .Go for santro or wagon….both will not disappoint you. Any how when we drive wagon we feel more driving comfort and pleasure. Excellent city driving in wagon r.
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:08 am
Hi, I think both WagonR and Santro are great hatchbacks. It’s time to add some music to our ears. I recently bought Santro Xing in Mumbai. I’m looking tobuy a decent car audio system now, within 10K - 12K or so.
Any ideas about good head unit-speaker combination guys?
February 25th, 2006 at 10:01 am
I have a Blaupunkt music on my Santro and works quite well. It has CD/MP3/Radio. I also read about JVC DVD MP3 player so it can play a DVD with thousands of MP3 songs, sounds interesting.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:06 am
Hi Niraj ,
What is your experience with Santro Automatic.
Is it better than WagonR AX?
How is the Auto Transmission?
What KPL are you getting after 1sr service?
Thanks
Dan
February 28th, 2006 at 10:31 am
Hi Ajay,
What is your experience about Automatic?
Dan
February 28th, 2006 at 10:32 am
Hi Prakash,
What do you think about Santro AT v/s WagonR AX ?
Thanks
Dan
February 28th, 2006 at 11:00 pm
Hi Dan,
In my opinon Santro AT is better also as per a few magazines reviews.
Go automatic if you live in a city with a lot of Traffic congestions
(Bombay/Bangalore) and are tired of shifting gears!
Regards
Prakash
March 1st, 2006 at 1:51 am
Can anyone advise me on the discounts & accesories that one can look for when buying a Santro Xing in Mumbai/Thane/Navi Mumbai?What’s the max that can be squeezed out of the dealer?
March 1st, 2006 at 5:10 am
Hi, I am undecided between a santro and a Wagon-R. I would like to know which is a better car in the long run?
I don’t think I will sell the car, it would just become a second car after a few years. My topmost consideration is annual running cost and comfort for our family. (My in-laws are old and riding comfort, back seat space etc is important for us)
Thanks,
Aditi Mathur
March 1st, 2006 at 5:20 am
Aditi:
Annual running costs wise Wagon R would be a bit cheaper but Santro is
easier to drive and more comfortable.
Wagon-R has one advantage that you can drop the seats completely and
create a full bed out of it. May be useful sometime for old people as
they can sleep if they are not feeling well.
I would also suggest that take your in-laws along and go for a test
drive, lets them actually sit and feel if its comfortable or not.
Do writeback once you decide which car to buy.
Regards
Prakash
March 1st, 2006 at 5:49 am
I am thinking of buying a small-sized car. Here is what I am looking for.
1. My budget is 4L max
2. I will be traveling 25 kms in a day (to & fro office). – would like to get a good milage like any other middle class Indian
3. Occasionally would like to go for a long ride (vacation)
4. Looking for AC variant/Power Steering
I feel swift and getz are more expensive and will not fit into my budget.
So my choices are coming down to Santro/Vagon R etc.
Can you suggest me one? Also what you think about Palio?
Looking for a reasonable re-sale value also.
Thank you for your time and advise.
Regards
Prajith Nair.
March 1st, 2006 at 1:02 pm
Prajith,
Considering your usage, mileage costs for both cars wouldn’t be much
different specially after Hyundai has introduced the eRLX engine which
gives better mileage.
AC of Santro is very good and their Powers Steering is suppose to be
better. Note however that Power Steering in any vehicle would give
you less mileage.
Palio is a great car but is suffering from poor service and
uncertainty since the company is not doing well. Also mileage wise its
not great.
Regards
Prakash
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:01 am
Also would like to know in Santro rlx power steering version
how much of average do u get with A/C(in peak summer so the a/c is on all the times) in city
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:05 am
Is Santro unstable on high speeds (above 90 kmph)and shaky in comparision with Wagon R
and when u say Santro is expensive maintaince wise can somebody give example in terms of figures real time
March 4th, 2006 at 11:22 am
I contacted today to one of Hyundai dealer. He is offering only Insurance and 4000/- free with no other free accessories. Is it the best deal we can get today. What about other dealers… Are all people in india are getting the same deal. Is it OK to wait for some more time. Anyone has any clue, please share
March 6th, 2006 at 12:37 am
This is the deal which is offered by one dealer in Hyderabad in Santro XO model.
1) Insurance free
2) Sony MP3 player with 4 speakers worth about 4k
3) Remote Locking
4) Sun Film
5) Full matting
6) Teflon Coating
The price has come down further and presently it is quoting for XO metallic is as given below
Ex showroom -368982
Life Tax - 33210
Insurance - 13481
Prices / Offers are likely to better in April as per the dealer. This is because what ever sales which are made in the month of the march, the company doesnot get the Excise Duty reduction benefit. Only sales from April will qualify for the Excise Duty reduction and the same will be passed on to customers in terms of better discounts / free accessories.
March 6th, 2006 at 12:42 am
Sorry, MP3 player worth 11K. So the total discount works out to be around 34K.
March 6th, 2006 at 12:53 am
Hi every one,
Has any one from Hyderabad give me mileage and other features of Santro zing eRLXXO model. How is Wagon R compared to XO. I am planning bo buy XO shortly.
Pl give feed back on performance. I have driven my sisters car Santro 2001 model and found to be good in pickup, mileage. Driven at 110-120 Kms pr hour was comfortable. How is new XO and what are the differences between the two.
Pl help.
Mritunjaya
hyderabad
March 6th, 2006 at 8:38 am
Hi Pawan,
Santro Dealers in Mumbai, Navi Mumbai, Pune are not giving any freebies since prices have fallen over 20000 after Excise duty cut. They, however, give free insurance which is worth around 15000..that’s all.
If any one is getting more than this pls let me know.
Dan
March 7th, 2006 at 1:59 am
Hi Satish,
Can you pls tell me more details abt the dealer kun or lakshmi or talwar. I called up talwar today and he is quoting 4.15 for XO model with acc worth 18000. How much did you pay?
March 7th, 2006 at 2:40 am
Hi,
I am planning to book Santro Xing XL later this month. I visited one of the dealer in bangalore (Advaith). Now after the budget, they quoted 3.93L on road.
Discount: Rs 4000
Free Acces..: MP3 player with speakers, mats, teflon coating, tinted glass, mudd stuf….
This was only the first round of talk. thinking to bargain more as i am not happy with 4k discount while maruti offering more.
Can anyone help me is it possible to get more discount/ any other free accessories …by bargaining. Anyone had better deal with advaith?
Thanks in advance,
AP
March 7th, 2006 at 7:12 am
Hi Prakash,
I recently test drove Santro Automatic, the car was very smooth and it was fun to drive. You don’t even feel anything at 60kmph and the controls are very light especially the brakes.. Pickup is excellent but road bumps are felt.
I have decided to buy this car.
(which dealer ???!!!)
Thanks
Dan
March 7th, 2006 at 8:52 am
Vijendar, The offer is from Talwar. 4.15L is the on road price and he will be giving accessories worth around 20K + Insurance free. So in effect it is about 34K discount.
March 9th, 2006 at 8:48 am
In Pune I am getting on Santro Automatic Free Insurance (15K), Cash Discount (4K), freebies: Mudflap, mat, reverse horn, engine bulb, number plate and sun film. Antirust coating at special rate of Rs 1200/-
If anyone getting more than this pls let me know
Dealer here is selling daily 10 santo cars and couldn’t be pushed for more freebies.
Dan
March 9th, 2006 at 8:59 am
Satish,
You are right, you will get more free stuf in April.
Dealers were refusing to give free acc. earlier and are slowly opening up now. I had to accept less acc. because I wanted to book now, get delievery before March 31st, so I can claim a depreciation of 7.5% on ‘On Road price’. My Tax saving will be 10K.
Dan
March 9th, 2006 at 12:36 pm
Hi Prakash. I booked the Santro XO model today which comes to almost 3.99L in trivandrum, Kerala inclusive of insurance +tax+Basic Accessories(mat, mudflap,no.plate and Body cover). I have asked for a loan of 2.98L from ICICI for 5 years for which the EMI comes to about 6500/month. Prakash is there anything that I should ask for in terms of Accessories. Should I have the teflon coating and the underbody rust proof coating done before I take the vehicle. Please advice on this.
March 9th, 2006 at 1:40 pm
If you want to get a music system, I would suggest that you get it now. If within the warranty period, you get a music system fitted from elsewhere which results in some other problem with the electronics, your warranty may be void.
About the coating, underbody rust proof coating is good to have specially if you live in a place where the climate is humid.
For that the authorised service centers in Mumbai quoted Rs. 3000, where as the mechanic quoted Rs. 1500! I don’t know how much the quality differs but I would prefer the cheaper option.
March 10th, 2006 at 6:52 am
Thank you Prakash for your reply. But most people around here get music systems done outside. I haven’t seen any dealers fitting a music system to the car unless it comes with the car. Here most dealers suggest a particular accesssory shop as they get some kind of comission from them. This was what I heard from finance personnel from ICICI bank.Here we have a bunch of car accessory shops all over competing equally with one another. Among the music systems I think Pioneer mp3 player stand out. As I see much demand for them. Prakash could you suggest a good music system with speakers and their specifications. Thanks again
March 10th, 2006 at 7:54 am
Satish the prices for Santro XO Model here in trivandrum was 4.23L with insurance and basic accessories, has come down to 3.99L with the same offer now. What I’ve heard is that there are chances that the dealers might just pass 50% of this to the customer later maybe next month and if the sales tax or anything goes up prices might go up a bit.
March 10th, 2006 at 11:28 pm
Suman,
I haven’t seen the Pioneer so can’t comment. Sound Quality should be your top priority, listen to the quality of sound before you decide which one to buy.
Prakash
March 11th, 2006 at 5:47 am
Hi Prakash,
I had the ICICI bank finance cancelled as thir intrest rate was 10.31% and they claimed it was diminshing while it was fixed. I got a call from State Bank of Travancore who offered me intrest rate 8.75% and which is fixed with no verifcation or any collateral and stuff like that. I think its best to go for loans to nationalised banks as they hav started cutting down on their policies. What would you say Prakash? Would like to hear your comments.
March 11th, 2006 at 7:38 am
Suman,
I am not a finance expert. The best way to compare is to check the EMI per lakh.
Regards
Prakash
March 11th, 2006 at 3:06 pm
Guyz,
GM was suppose to introduce a small car in Feb 2006 . Did it happen?. Does anybody have some details on that?
I am planing to buy my first car. Should I go for ALTO and later to wagon R?Does ALTO have a good resale value?
Regards
Senthil.
March 12th, 2006 at 8:23 am
have heard maruti is goin to launch a new Wagon R model with improved shape. Does anyone has an idea about the new shape????
March 12th, 2006 at 8:26 am
Also, am planning to buy my first car, and am cofused between wagon R and swift. The problem is not the budget as far as buying is concerned. But i need to know which one would be heavier on my pocket in the long run, that is, after buying the car. On average i would be driving about 30 kms a day. I have got very bad reviews so far on the mileage of swift.
Can some one please help me…..soooon????
I am really confused.
March 13th, 2006 at 4:15 am
Hi Everybody
I own both Sentro Zing AND Wagon R.
Just Sentro is far better than Wagon R..
It will keep you safe in all accidents like own kid. Things are much better in sentro then in wagon R
March 15th, 2006 at 3:20 am
Senthil, the small car GM had in mind was the Daewoo Matiz (Daewoo has been taken over by GM) which was supposed to be launched earlier. But right now they have kept it on hold for another 4 months. If you are willing to wait, then you would get the car soon..
Alto’s resale value has come down, especially since everyone retains a compact car for 3-5 years at the most.. It’s the same with other cars also. In fact if you are a first timer, I suggest you go in for a second hand car. At the current prices they are well worth it..
Suman, with loans, it’s always better to go in for a diminishing loan when you intend to foreclose it much earlier. For ex., if you want to to go in for a fixed loan, and the loan amount is around 1 lakh for a period of 3 years, you would be paying the “interest” initially. There is no difference if you go in for a full term. However when you intend to foreclose the loan, then you would have to pay more than the one lakh you have taken (if within the first 6 months) You might end up paying upto 1 lakh or 90000 besides the payments you have already made. (at 8 %) However with diminishing loans, the payment you make are for both the interest and the principal. So the foreclosure amount would be slightly lesser (for the same six month period).
Manish, regarding the claims made about a Santro giving 20 kmph, I again reiterate that no Indian car for that matter has so far given that much mileage. This is regardless of the “Speed” fuel you use. I just verified that the mileage improvement by Santro is in .3 km for the newer version. I fail to see how that could affect the highway mileage (eRLX Euro 3).
True. The highway mileage is always much higher. The Santro at any given point gives you around 13 in city conditions and 16-17 max on highway conditions. But 19-22 is still wanting by any Indian car. (With or without AC) You can visit any Santro dealer for the actual figures. And it is the same for the Wagon R or any other car.
This is regardless of the fuel you use (whether groundnut oil as in Shakthiman trucks (in scarcity or during a war) or 87-88 octane “speed” petrol). Note that the Speed petrol has some additives that only improve the engine life by removing antirust oxidants. It does not improve the mileage but maintains it to when it was originally new. The difference between the speed and normal petrol is marginal even when you run above 300000 kms. (There might be a difference of 1-2 kmph) The Speed and other gasoline products with a higher octane rating only clean the engine by way of some oil additives used. They do not improve the mileage, but only “try” and clean the engine. And the mileage is best with a cleaner engine. That’s the logic behind Speed or other high octane fuels. That’s about it. In fact it is recommended to use high octane fuels during city driving not during highway driving. It tends to seize the engine. There are numerous instances when it has been noticed that using high octane fuels , especially when going over long distances tends to seize the engine. (Due to the heat and running conditions of the engine) However for city driving it is optimal and cleans the dirt and grime from the engine regularly. Again, you can verify the facts with any mechanic or your nearest dealer.
And I repeat, the Santro gives around 16-17 (without AC) on highway conditions not 19-22 with AC as you claim…. Overall you would receive what the comany claims 13 to 14.
Regarding the claims you have made it is very likely that at the time of delivery of your car, you would already have 7 litres of fuel inside. 2 litres from the factory and 5 from the dealer. This is provided by the factory and all dealers regardless of the make and type of car. Assuming that you have filled in 70 litres and clocked 1228 kms (as stated) then the total fuel in the car is around 77 lts, ie., a mileage of 15.95 overall. Now that is a true figure of a Santro’s mileage. (It could be with AC on half the time also)
March 15th, 2006 at 9:46 pm
I have purchased a SWIFT yesterday. My problem is how to know the manufacturing year of the car. I am doubtful that the car i have got is manufactured in year 2005. Is there any way to judge or know the manufacturing year from the car. The registration book will ofcourse say Year 2006 when i have registered.
March 16th, 2006 at 8:06 am
Hi All,
This is for all Santro owners that there is a fuel additive that increases your mileage “Bardahl Special Injector Klene”. You can get it from Hyundai or a Maruti dealer.
BARDAHL Auto Additives
Special Injector Klene
Approved by Hyundai
Provides quick and superior cleaning action to injectors, carburetors, and the induction system.
Benefits:
Easier starting, smoother idling, immediate throttle response
Cleans and unclogs the fuel injector and dissolves injector deposits
Optimizes fuel economy and engine performance
Improves drivability
Protects against rust and corrosion
Directions
Pour contents of one bottle (100ml) into the petrol tank. Bardahl Special Injector Klene stats working while the vehicle is driven. Does not harm catalytic converters. Repeat treatment after 1200 - 1400 kms. Ideal for both MPFI and Carburetor system vehicles.
You can also buy a 250ml bottle which lasts upto appx. 2500 kms or you can buy an 150 ml which lasts upto 1500 kms. You need to simply put the bottle contents into the fuel tank. For a good mixture its advisable that your fuel tank is atleast 50% full.
But please do have a word with your technician.
March 16th, 2006 at 4:09 pm
I paid a visit to the Santro dealer in ahmedabad, and was really disappointed with the paper work they talked about if i wanted to purchase on loan. We stay in a rented accomodation so they want a guarantor which is pretty wierd.
I also had to bargain a lot as far as the price is concerned. Now i feel that I should wait till april for the best deals. though I would like to visit the maruti dealer tomorrow as so many people have talked about the Wagon R, i am quiet impressed. Will keep you posted about the developments tommorrow
Cheers!!
March 17th, 2006 at 1:41 am
Padrevaters, I reiterate that my Santro Xing eRLX - XL variant, purchased in Dec 2005, gives a mileage of 19 to 20 kmpl on highway when driven at a speed of 60-70 kmph, with AC switched on intermittently as & when required. I also talked with a few colleagues who own the same car. Their cars also give more or less the same mileage.
I never claimed that I get this mileage because of “Speed” petrol. My only intention in specifying the brand I used was to counter your argument that “regardless of the type of rocket fuel used …..”. Also, contrary to your belief, “Speed” is not high octane petrol. It is only 87-88 octane, which is the minimum octane rating required as per Euro-II norms. In fact, I now use Reliance petrol with the same octane rating & I still get the same mileage.
You are right about Hyundai dealers informing that Santro gives 16-17 kmpl on highways. My dealer, too, told me the same. So, I was pleasantly surprised when I got a better than expected mileage.
March 17th, 2006 at 2:38 am
Suman, I am looking to buy a car in TVM, but cant decide between Santro and WagonR. You mentioned that the prices can go down in April, is it true? Then I could hold on till then. Can you estimate how much it might go down ? Also will a Santro dealer take in a Maruti 800 Std as a trade in for a Santro.
Thanks!
March 18th, 2006 at 5:54 am
Hi Philip,
It’s a probability the prices might go down. I don’t know if a Hyundai dealer will take a Maruti 800 for a trade but the same can happen if you go to a Maruti dealer. Both Wagon R and Santro have their advantages and disadvantages. Since your a Maruti user you will want a car with mileage and a good service network. On the other hand I haven’t seen a Santro break down so far. Wagon R is good but then the choice is yours. The prices have already down buy Rs. 24000. It wont go down further. Chances are the dealers might pass just the half of this to customers.And if there is an increase in the Sales tax or something it will have effect on the price. Hope this helps
March 18th, 2006 at 6:23 am
Philip check this link out http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Hyundai_Santro_Xing-60163-1.html.
It’s a review of a ex-maruti 800 owner who owns a santro now.
March 18th, 2006 at 7:43 am
Padrevaters, I just wanted to clarify abt octane rating for petrol.
From 1st April 2005, fuel in 11 major cities have been brought under BS-III norms, whereas the rest of the country has been brought under BS-II norms. Minimum octane rating for BS-III petrol is 91 RON, whereas for BS-II, it is 87 RON.
Since I live in Jamnagar, where BS-II norms for fuel are in force, the minimum octane rating for petrol is 87 RON.
March 18th, 2006 at 10:52 am
Here is my dilemma. I have an old Santro Deluxe from 1999. I bought it second hand from a friend nearly two years back. It was already loaded when I purchased it — AC/heater, power steering, front and rear power windows (rear - retro fitted), defogger, rear wiper, alloy wheels, radial tyres, Kenwood cassette stereo.
Now I am looking to buy a new car - a Wagon R Vxi or a Santro. Is the Wagon R easier to drive than the Santro? What about fuel economy? Can three people sit at the back of a Wagon R? What is your opinion - overall? I have no qualms about switching to Maruti — but I need to be convinced that it is worth the switch.
March 19th, 2006 at 1:36 pm
Am still confused after reading these blogs wether to buy a Santo or Wagon R.
Had took my mom out last weekend and she liked the Santro more appealing. Also spoke few of my friends who own a Santro and they are very satisfied with the performance. Also one of my friend told me that he touched a whopping speed of 150 on the Mumbai Pune Express Highway and the car runs smooth and does not wobble too. Another friend owns a Wagon R and he too is impressed with it’s performance.
These are things which I am looking out for in my car:
- Am looking at a car which is big like a Santro or Wagon R (Tall Boy Design)
- Good Looks
- Weekend car for picinics (As my usage will be only weekends)
- Good Mileage
Please advise
Norman Gonsalves
March 20th, 2006 at 12:14 am
Reading this blog, it looks like I am going to end up with Santro, not WagonR. I went to this ABT dealer in Guindy, Chennai. Without any negotiation, I was offered a price of 3.86 (on road) for Santro XL with the following free options which the dealer mentioned would be worth about 15,000.
Mp3 player with 2 speakers, Remote locking, Reverse horn(find this very annoying), floor mat, dicky mat and mud flaps.
In the current market, how much should I really approximately pay for this car?
Any advise is appreciated. Thanks
March 20th, 2006 at 3:43 am
Hey Suman,
I appreciate you replying and the link. I am trying to help my parents make an informed decision abt buying a new car while I am not around and theres only so much that I can do. They have a used M800 that they want to pawn off before they get a new one. Do you know a good site where I could look up used car prices. They do have couple of offers from the Maruti dealers and a Private party but I am not sure if the price is right. They are offering 75K trade in for a 1997 M800 STD with 50K Kms and sell them a new WagonR for 3.83lkhs. I have asked my parents to get a quote from the Santro dealer based on the information you provided here for your santro. Lets see what happens. Thanks again.
March 20th, 2006 at 4:02 am
Hi- I have just learnt driving. And after reviewing the contents of the blogs, thought it would be better to purchase a second hand car and “work my way” to a new one rather than purchase new car. Can anyone suggest a good option including mileage plus considering that Mumbai was flooded by rains (26th July)… Appreciate your replies.
Regards,
Prashant
March 20th, 2006 at 11:29 am
Wagon-R only accomodate 3 kids in rear seat not 3 adults.
March 20th, 2006 at 3:38 pm
Hi Guys
Doing really a great job!. I’m planning to buy a santro erlx without A/c. B’coz I’m short on budget, So Is it possible to install the A/C later, If it’s possible then can you tell me the price & also is there any performance difference in pre-intalled A/c or post-installed A/c.
Plz do reply.
March 21st, 2006 at 7:22 am
Hi Philip you can contact Mr. Aswini Kumar from Hilton Hyundai Mob 9847433660 and check it out with them. They dont give any free offers but they will give you a quote including the tax and insurance. And one more thing if you go for a loan take it from a nationalised bank its safe as they are transparent and they have no hidden costs. Sorry I didn’t reply sooner as I was on my week off yesterday.
March 21st, 2006 at 12:57 pm
Hi All,
I heard that view mirrors of wagon R are bad ( not concave) and
wheels are smaller than santro.
Can I Replace the wheels of Wagon R with those Santro size ?
one of the Santro Technician told that Wagon R is not Aerodyanmical
It would wobble,not stable and wheels would in air sometimes at higher speeds and wagon have more chances of turtle
Please help me in this regard so that I could decide on the buy
Thanks
Prabhu
March 21st, 2006 at 8:40 pm
Hey Suman,
Thanks for the info. I will pass on the number to my parents unless they already went for a quote.
March 22nd, 2006 at 2:09 am
Hi Rajiv one thing I can assure you that you will have a good mileage as you don’t have an A/C right now… :). I don’t know however how effective it will be when you get the A/C fit later. A factory fit A/C is always better. That’s my opinion.
March 22nd, 2006 at 5:03 am
Pls., send me the details of the mileage
March 23rd, 2006 at 12:05 pm
I have booked Santro Xing XO today in Hyundai Talwar, Banjara Hills, Hyderabad. He is offering free insurance (13,481) and other freebies (Full Mats, Mudflaps, seat covers, Teflon Coating, Remote Locking and Sun Film). I am taking ‘Charming Grey’ color metallic car and it comes to 3.68 lacs and life tax of 33,120. On road, I am getting my Santro for 4,02,102. Do you think it’s a fair deal?
- ramana
March 24th, 2006 at 5:50 am
Do not buy automatics. With an automatic gear box, the mileage of any car would reduce drastically. The WagonR automatic is priced at around 5,60k.
Besides being more expensive then the geared brothers, the automatic gearbox is not a perfect match for these cars. The mileage is very less- 10kmpl-12 for city.
On a highway you would receive around 15. It’s not worth the effort. In India it is more useful for handicapped people. Seeing the popularity of automatics in the US and UK, it is (probably filed with them -just joking) a wise option abroad, but not here.
March 25th, 2006 at 10:08 am
Doing really a great job!. I’m planning to buy a santro erlx without A/c. B’coz I’m short on budget, So Is it possible to install the A/C later, If it’s possible then can you tell me the price & also is there any performance difference in pre-intalled A/c or post-installed A/c.
March 25th, 2006 at 10:10 am
All cars are best. Look into your pocket wchich suits you much.
March 25th, 2006 at 12:11 pm
Hi gvramana. I think your dealer has included the insurance and life tax in the quote. The Accessories might be free. It’s a good deal and you can go for it. Life tax comes to 20K. Insurance and Road tax are included. The Accessories are the only freebies you are getting. Check out what the offers.
March 27th, 2006 at 1:46 am
hi everyone, dont decide santro simply on the style, check out the service expenses, iam having wagon R and my cousin was having santro, for wagon R they r charging only 3200 for 40000km service, but for santro they r charging 6300. service consist of engine & gear oil replacement + engine decarbonize and wheel alignment+balancing… dont go for huyndai products….
March 27th, 2006 at 11:29 pm
Need a clarification regarding financing. I have taken a loan from ICICI for my new Wagon R. Dealer says the first Advance EMI has to be paid to the dealer and the dealer will hand it over to ICICI. Is this how it works? Shouldn’t I be giving it directly to the bank. Can anyone tell me why the dealer is taking it? As per Dealer it is the process !!
March 28th, 2006 at 9:24 am
AC is around 13k-15k for santro when fitted from outside.Its performance is not bad and u can save around 25k-30k at least by choosing santro non ac model. In our city non ac model is 2.88 lakh ex showroom+ Ac from outside 13,000 =3.01 lakhs. And AC model is 3.31 lakh ex showroom. I have AC XK model. I also want to buy Non Ac MODEL BUT their is long waiting list for that car.
March 29th, 2006 at 1:44 am
AC fitted by outside party is definitely cheaper but any problems with it will be a pain in the rear end for a long while. Installation has to be done professionally. I am surprised that there is 80K price tag for a factory installed AC. Seems a bit on the high side.
@Arun, Does WagonR and Santro have the same service schedule - i mean do they want the same things done at 40000Km but one cost double the other? Please clarify, i would like to know. Thanks
March 29th, 2006 at 2:55 am
Hi Friends,
Thanksa lot for the posts in this forum and with the extensive help of this, I have decided to buy Santro over Wagon R.
I would like to know what is the current best offer for Santro XL and XO variants in bangalore.
Trident has offered me XL@3.94 and XO@4.22 both On-Road, with an additional discount of 12k worth accessories including
1) MP3 player and speakers
2) keyless Entry
3) Seat Covers
4) Mud flaps
5) teflon Coating
Is it worth going for XO?
Also, is this the best offer that we avail now in Bangalore? Is there anyone, who have availed better offers so that I can bargain further on this offer?
Thanks in advance
Rajesh Menon
March 30th, 2006 at 4:47 am
Hi Friends,
I would also like to know if anyone has got a better offer than as mentioned by Rajesh Menon. Advaith and Trident are offering the XL model at more or less the same price . Did anyone get free insurance?
Thanks and regards.
April 2nd, 2006 at 8:41 am
Hi Rajesh Menon/cb,
I would like to speak to you asap on buying an XO/XL model in Bangalore(Advaith/Trident). We have a good deal/offer already spoken with one of the dealer. Please write to me at doclegend@gmail.com immediately with your contact telephone numbers so that we can discuss this in detail for a win-win for all. Waiting for ur message,
Regards,
Andy
April 4th, 2006 at 1:24 am
Hi,
I have read most of the comments posted by members on both the cards.
Looks like Santro has an edge over Wagon-R.
However, in santro too..there are various sub models. Would like to know
the following things:
1. Best AC model in Santro
2. On road price in Mumbai/Thane
3. Things to bargains from Dealers
4. Best Dealers in terms of service, price etc. in Mumbai/Thane region
Thanks in anticipation for all your help.
Cheers
Ashish
April 4th, 2006 at 3:58 am
Hi Guys,
What is the final decision after a long chain of comparison.
Santro or Wagon R. !!!!
April 4th, 2006 at 10:53 am
Hi,
My driving needs are basically within city, (around 30 km a day) with an occasional vacation.
But owing to city traffic, i am looking for a more ergonomic car, which has the gear, pedals and steering at optimum position, so that it causes less fatige during city manouvering.
After reading much about Wagon-R and Santro Zing erlx, for my driving needs, i conclude that for both are equal on running cost etc.
Can somebody differentiate them on ergonomics, which is one area we are not focussing at all.
Rgds,
Vibhu
April 6th, 2006 at 8:50 am
Hi,
Iam going in for Santro XO. The dealer gives me accessories like mp3 player, mud flap, other stuffs. but he doesn’t give me free insurance or
other cash discounts? should I go for it?
April 6th, 2006 at 9:13 pm
Hey Guys,
Iam planning buy Santro Xing ERLX from Advaith/Trident Bangalore with in a week.If anybody is interested for the same, feel free to get in touch with me as we can push for a best deal.
Contact # 9886702600
Thanks
Sibi
April 7th, 2006 at 10:55 am
What fuel efficiency (m./liter) can one expect from a new Santro Xing AT.
Is it a good buy as far as automatics are concerned?
Reply appreciated
April 8th, 2006 at 3:59 am
Dear Mr. Rajesh Menon,
Go for XO since the iteriors are classy with new handrest cum power window swithces. Even the rear window switches are asthetically placed.ith delux floor console, you will have the feeling of driving the luxury sedan.
I bought the XO with leather seats of matching body color, real earth and it looks so envious. I got it on road for Rs. 4.04 L with fully loaded accessories. Leather seats extra(Rs.12500/-).
As far mileage it is now giving me around 11.5 to 12 kms per L with AC on and is just 10 days old. After three services it is expected to touch 14 Kms per L.
With XO you will havae pleasure driving new car unlike XL,which has old hand rest and power swithces.
Mritunjaya
April 8th, 2006 at 4:11 am
Dear Mr. Vibhu,
The wagon R is more compact, in terms of width where as santro is slightly wider and thus needs to be expert/extra cautious in handling during the peak neck to neck driving conditions. Since the responses of break or accelarator is so quick that you need to keep sufficient distanace from back or front vehicle till you are expert.
The clutch foot rest is of great use in city conditions when you re tired.
Response of engine is far better than W-R when on AC.Both cars have almost same mileage. Seating conforts are far better in santro than WR.
Body is more aerodynamic than WR. AC response is very fast in Santro.
With regards.
Mritunjaya
April 9th, 2006 at 9:00 pm
Hi,
Yesterday I went for test driving Santro. I took it to Noida - Gr.Noida expressway and touched 130+ kmph. I couldn’t feel any wobbling as claimed by few in the blog. I’m planning to buy Santro XO (SS). The on road price is coming close to 3.86L with free insurance, seat cover et. al.(no music system). The dealer is Nimbus Hyundai, is this the best deal I can get?
One question to Mr. Advani, Does power steering’s power effect wears off with time. I’d driven XO (1 yr old car) its steering was smooth like butter, then i test drove the demo car of the dealer, it wasn’t too soft. The guy said that its because the car is 3-4 yrs old. I liked the engine response when AC was on. Is santro having a wider wheel base, ground clearance? how does it affect the drive?
Importantly Should I go for santro??
regards
Sanjay
April 10th, 2006 at 12:35 am
We have a Wagon -R LXi…..thinking of going for ‘Autoclutch’…..to drive in bangalore city…..anybody has any experience? lets us know the pros-cons plzzz…………
April 10th, 2006 at 3:34 am
Has anyone used the Autoclutch from Automate, what are the pros and cons of it. I have a wagon r LXi(Nov 2003, has done 11,000 kms) planning to go for it.
One more idea is to exchange it for an Santro AT, what is your suggestion on this?.
April 10th, 2006 at 10:08 am
Do radials reduce the fuel efficiency of the car?
April 10th, 2006 at 9:31 pm
Hello ,
I got a very good deal from bangalore hayundai.
The deal was for
1. Remote locking
2. Teflon coating
3. Seat and Body cover
4. Mp3 player with 4 speakers
5. Bumper painting
6. Spoiler
7. Gr8 Cash discount
If anybody intereseted to join, contact me immediately at tcj.blore@gmail.com or phone me at 9226702600
Regards
tcj
April 11th, 2006 at 4:18 am
I’m planning to buy a Santro Mettalic XL. For this I approached both Advaith Hyundai and Trident Hyundai. Customer service is very bad for Advaith Hyundai. So I approached Trident Hyundai. They offered me 3.94 Lakhs On road price and accessaries worth 12 K. Is there anyone getting better deal than this?
April 11th, 2006 at 2:15 pm
yes…. I have got better than that Suvendu.. U can call me @9886702600
Regards
tcj
April 12th, 2006 at 3:56 am
tcj, How much is “Gr8 Cash discount”?
Also are you getting free insurance along with the above freebies?
April 13th, 2006 at 3:33 am
Sunil…. I didnt get free insurance.. but got 12k discount..
April 13th, 2006 at 2:08 pm
I m geting EMI of 5370 & Downpayment of 35142
for santro XL EXL for 7 yrs pls comment
April 18th, 2006 at 9:16 pm
Wats wrong people where is everybody !!??
April 19th, 2006 at 12:09 am
hi rick
can u tell me where u got the offer i’m looking for the same….
please reply asap
alok
April 19th, 2006 at 2:07 am
Hi, I have recently bought a Wagon R -Vxi , from Sagar Maruti - Blore for on-road price of 4.07 lacs( 22 k discount) and free accessaries ( without MP3 player).Has anyone got a better offer than this in Bangalore. If yes , than pls blog me here. WR is amazing .I feel its better than Santro in Bangalore crowed roads,ground clearence is amazing and power stearing is superb.Value for money when u drive it.
April 19th, 2006 at 1:59 pm
Hey alok I got this offer from icici @ noida
April 20th, 2006 at 12:03 am
So does anyone know what Mileage one should expect from an Automatic Transmission - Hyundai Santro?
Anyone there!!
April 20th, 2006 at 12:54 pm
I think somewhere around 11 to 12 as far I know (according to my knowledge gatthered through blogs)
RE:
Bored Says:
April 20th, 2006 at 12:03 am
So does anyone know what Mileage one should expect from an Automatic Transmission - Hyundai Santro?
Anyone there!!
April 21st, 2006 at 12:27 am
All Automatic Transmission vechicals gives mileage less than 10, reason being that in city conditions it moves in 2 and 3 gear only thus consumption of petrol is more as compared to other vehicals where u can go to 4-5 gear if the roads are not that crowed.More over it also depends on ur driving skills.but believe me 8 - 10 will be ur milegage for all AT.I hope this answers your question.
April 21st, 2006 at 7:07 am
hi
AT mileage is comparitively lesser than the normal ones is wht i’ve heard dnt knw the autheticity of it
April 22nd, 2006 at 5:01 am
Yes I seem to be getting about 7.8 km/ltr. on a brand new Automatic Santro. Does this seem on the low side?
April 22nd, 2006 at 2:26 pm
I m geting a santro XL which is 100 kms done through Dealer is it normal for brand new car ? pls comment asap
April 22nd, 2006 at 11:50 pm
Is there any way I can check wheher the car I m geting is ERLX and what are oter things I should check before taking delivery please comment .
April 23rd, 2006 at 5:06 am
hi rick
i 2 hav bookd a santro…
XL erlx..
free features being offered are
front 2 power window
blaupunkt mp3 player wth 4 spkrs & antenaae
central locking
seat cover
steering wheel cover
car cover
floormats,mudflaps…
price is 3.94 orn road with lifetinme tax and insurance etc
icici loan offer is
3.09 lakhs… monthly 5225 for 7yrs
downpayment comes to 91000 inclusive of insurance, reg, road tax, first months emi…
please comment
Alok
April 23rd, 2006 at 7:33 am
Hey uddalok,
U didnt mention in which city ur coz that also matters …..
I m in Noida .front power windows are standard feature of XL …so thats not freebee I m geting discount of 11 thosand plus free Insureance(95 of dealers are giving that in & around Delhi) which comes around 22 K hope thats where ur freebes are coming from ..I m not sore bout road tax thing I wld confirm and get back to u and my interest rate is 10.25 as booking amount I have given 15 K to Santro dealer and rest 6 K more on delivery
April 24th, 2006 at 7:55 am
Alok…overall in 7 years you r paying an extra of 1,35,000 more….why 7 years…why not 5 years…how much ICICI Bank is charging u per lac…at present ICICI should give u 2154 per lac , SBI is giving 2064 , CITIBANK - 2084 and HDFC - 2136….pls chk the interest rates before going in for ICICI….its ur call now !!
April 26th, 2006 at 10:47 am
New car showing 100 kms.Its should be below 20 kms the most in showroom.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:07 pm
is santro going to be phased out in 2007?
April 27th, 2006 at 12:36 am
Not necessary Ajay…it should show approx 50 kms…thats normal
April 27th, 2006 at 2:42 pm
Hi Guyz,
I bought a wagonr lxi in sept.05. I must say one thing after researching alot I took the decision. My car has bee doing great. AC is great, pick up amazing and the fuel efficiency is amazing. Its giving me 15kmpl in city with AC. As far as stability is concerned I did 140km/hr on pune/mumbai xpresshighway with 4 adults and decent luggae. Though I hadnt finished with the accelarator yet, Im sure it can easily do 150kmph.
I think its the best car in its segment and the power it delivers 64bhp from 1.1L is exceptional.
cheers
Ashish
April 28th, 2006 at 2:22 am
There is a lot of change in santro xing XL and santro xing XO.
April 29th, 2006 at 5:16 am
Well, guys tell you what? I test drove both the cars, the Wagon R Lxi (they did not have an Vxi and so they got me the Lxi) first and then the Santro eRLX XO. Also, I would like to point out that I myself own an old Santro Deluxe (1999) - which I am going to sell off soon.
The Wagon R
Feels surprising comforable to drive. Within a couple of minutes, I felt I had been driving this car all my life. Maneuveribility is MUCH better than the Santro - good visibility adds to the experience and you can do U-turns very well — absolutely tight U-turns. Excellent pickup, good AC (I would rate it BETTER than Santro XO). I took both cars on a bad patch of road and the open highway because I was sure that the city traffic is not the best place for a test drive..you need to give “bad” roads for a “good” test drive. The ride was pretty comfortable even on bad roads on the Wagon R. I was pleasantly surprised. The drawbacks…very poor interiors (horrible plastics), stiff gear shifts. Also, plain rear view mirrors…but that is a minor glitch. You can change the glasses there..one can buy some Qualis of Santro mirrors, remove the factory-fitted rear view mirrors and replace them.
Santro XO
They got me the exact model and color I am looking to buy…took it on the exact same road — found the ride BUMPY. VERY BUMPY. Back seats .AND front seats …..I could not believe it. It was as if I wanted the trip to end soon! Even the AC too was not as good as the Wagon R. U-turns…could not turn tight enough and on the bad patch of roads…the ride was terrible…nearly got thrown off! I don’t know what is with Hyundai. I was so disappointed that I took my old Santro 1999 on the same patch of road the next day…and the ride was much much better, though not as good as the Wagon R ride. Obviously, over the years, Hyundai’s quality has DECLINED. The interiors — well they are MUCH better than the Wagon R’s but man you are buying the car first…the interiors come later..you need to have a reasonably comfortable car..when you are looking at a car of Rs 4 Lac range (on road). One good point, the pickup was better than the Wagon R. HOWEVER, the car was UNSTABLE AT THOSE SPEEDS (70 kmph)…scary ride….
Really, I was terribly disappointed by the Santro …I have now decided to go with the Wagon R. I hope to be able to get the car soon, perhaps in 10 days or so..The old Santro was still a good car, the new Santro is a BAD product to say the least. I wonder what you guys have to say…
April 30th, 2006 at 2:15 am
Before making the final decision between Wagon R and Santro xing, I had referred the informations and opinions available in the internet. But it instead of making the facts more clear, it could only help to confuse me. So, finally I decided to conduct an opinion poll between Santro and Wagon R owners. With the help of my friend, we have approached Santro and Wagon R users separately. After finishing the study many things I could understand:
01. Wagon R owners are much more happy with their cars compared to Santro people.
02. Maintenance of Wagon R is much much less compared to Santro.
03. Internet information will not give a clear picture of the actual fact as only very few post their opinion to inetrnet.
04. So, I have purchased one wagon R VXi and now Iam a very happy man.
May 1st, 2006 at 1:09 am
Can somebody pls tell me how to check mileage of car
May 2nd, 2006 at 7:45 am
Rick. Its easy.
Kms done between two full tanks divided by the fuel you filled the second full tank.
Suppose your km reading is 100 kms and you do a full tank. Now when you do a full tank again and your kms reading shows 300 and you have put 20 liters of fuel, your mileage would be 300-100=200/20 =10. So your mileage is 10 Kms to a Liter.
You need to do this a couple of time to get an accurate reading. There are softwares for the Mobile/PDAs which makes it easy to calcuate this.
May 3rd, 2006 at 4:03 am
John and Rajesh …I ditto your words …I have bought a Wagon R Vxi…and I am enjoying it….one point u guys missed…fuel efficency….i bet it is the most fuel efficient car in its category…
May 4th, 2006 at 11:40 am
Wagon R is a LADIES Car.Do’t beleive me go to any place and count How many peoples driving Wagon R and u find that more than 60% drivers are infact LADIES. For most of peoples[men] it’s more like a van not even a car.Its still a 4 Seater.Maruti Dealers have attiude is ” take it or leave”.This Car is mostly considered a DABBA.Wagon R and Santro e-rlx have same average.Santro have Better AC than Wagon R’s.Its warrenty is more than Wagon R.Beleive me Santro do’t need frequent spare part changes.I am happy owner of Santro and no trouble at all like its is dangerous to drive 70+ kms. I touched 140+ with ease.Usually I drove under 80 for better mileage. It gives me 17+ on highway and 14+ in city.
May 4th, 2006 at 11:38 pm
before deciding on which car to go for out of Wagon R and santro, I did proper research. I enquired with experts, friends and websites. Since I am tall, I wanted to go for any of these vehicles. I know the reliablity of Suzuki vehicles, so at first i thot I ll go for the R. Then I also consulted the dealerships. When I asked for discounts, the Suzuki dealerships were willing to give me upto a total discount of 40k on the Wagon R. But the Hyundai dealers said, as already Santros are moving very fast in the market there is no need for them to give discounts. So I got the clue that Santro is definitely the BEST. Now I am the proud owner of a Santro.
May 5th, 2006 at 5:22 am
Can somebody tell me what are pro & cons of CNG conversionof petrol engine I have a Santro XL if i go for CNG Conversion would my Hyundai warrant would be still valid …coz the petrol is about to rise 5+ Rs more Is CNG a good option .
May 5th, 2006 at 2:13 pm
While I am inclined to buy a Santro over WagonR aftre going through these messages, I am not sure what model to go for - XO or XL. What are the differences between the two?
Any replies will be highly appreciated. Thanks.
May 7th, 2006 at 6:00 am
Santro is a great car and its better in technology where as wagonr is worst bcoz its an maruti suzuki company i have taken test for both car and santro is havin very fast pick up than wagon r its.santro is even better than swift
May 7th, 2006 at 11:34 pm
Hey Sameer nice decision …i just bought XL myself
let me give me my point of view
The diffrence between two is 25 K
In which you are geting xtra is 1. adjustable Seats (up & down )
2. Fog lights front
3. Colred bumpers
4. Back viper
5. Defoggers (which is not possible to get it install afterwards or on XL )
6. rear Spoiler
7. adjustable window mirrors from inside
which I think is worth 25 K
otherwise everything else is same engine , interiors etc
May 7th, 2006 at 11:39 pm
Hey Akshat , I think CNG is very inteligence choice according to these days as fuel price is going high and would continue to do so …..though I dont know much about its effect on Engine maye Prakash can put some light on it ..!
May 9th, 2006 at 8:17 am
Sameer,
XO is fully loaded car with the max features Hyundai could given in whereas XL has limited features. The difference will cost you around 20,000 in both the versions (XO being cotsly).
Regards,
Ashish
May 10th, 2006 at 3:38 am
Sameer, excuse me for being blunt, but I think it makes more sense to go to a Santro dealer & checking out both variants for yourself rather than asking this question here in this forum.
May 11th, 2006 at 2:05 am
Hi,
I think its not worth going for Santro XO model. It costs around 3.7 lacs and spending this big amount for santro is not worth.(then better go for getz).
Remember the base price of santro is Rs 2.68 lacs
Thanks
May 11th, 2006 at 2:27 am
Hi sameer,
Go for XO, it has posh cabin with power windows for all four doors. and the interiors are superior to other variants. Go for leather seats to addup to the looks.
thanks
May 11th, 2006 at 11:58 am
Thanks all for replying to my query. Today, I visited Sanjay Hyundai in Pune and was offered Santro XL for 3.89 L and he is offering me a cash discount of 14 K and no free accessories.
Anyone who got a car in Pune recently, let me know if this is a fair price.
May 11th, 2006 at 12:04 pm
Manish, thanks for your reply. However, I think it would make more sense to do a homework before going to a dealer, whose only job would be to sell the car to you at any cost. I assume the basic purpose of this blog is to share as much info as we can.
May 13th, 2006 at 10:50 pm
Hi,
I am planning to buy a Wagon R LX in Bangalore. Can anybody suggest what is the best discount I can get and from which dealer in bangalore.
Thanks
May 13th, 2006 at 11:12 pm
Hi Rajiban,
Can you please tell me what free accessaries did you get from Sagar Maruti ?
Thanks
May 14th, 2006 at 10:02 pm
Hi!
Can somebody post details of latest (May) deals on Santro XL?
1. On road price in hyderabad or bangalore.
2. Discounts / Freebies etc
Thanks
May 15th, 2006 at 2:22 am
Well !!!! there is lots of stuff available for pros & cons of both vehicle (Santro & Wagon R) can some one throw some light on safety features
comparison which is also imp ( pls exclude air bag feature as it is available in top model only )
May 15th, 2006 at 5:26 am
The blind spot for Wagon-R is a major major issue. Once after I had dropped my wife off at the station early morning, I was exiting the station where it was pretty dark but I had to make a slow right turn. I almost hit the policeman standing in the middle of the road at the intersection, IE the exit from the station to the road. The front bars completely covered that area and the head lights do not go much to the sides. Remember, this was under 5KPH, very slow but I saw a hand hit the mirror and stopped instead of running him over. The same can be said on reversing. If some idiot is standing at just the behind the rear bars, you cant see them. I had someone hit the car because I reversed and almost hit him. Of course I looked before getting into the car if anyone was there and also with all 3 mirrors before reversing and have sound/light alarm to warn others on reversing. Idiots are everywhere. They really really need to redesign the bars and make it thinner since such thick bars are great for safety but not very good for visibility as it will completely hide a person near by. The small tires are bad for pot holes. Regular size 14 tires are much better for bad roads but seems all small cars use smaller auto type tires. I used to drive a honda accura before and the wargon-r seems okay to me so it must be pretty good. The accura has a pretty zippy high performance engine that is very good in pickup and handles like a dream during turns. I would never try turns that fast with the wagonr. But why is milage so low with an engine and car half the size? I used to get 50KPH/gallon with the accura and I get less with wagonr, the high performance tires for the accura look like 4 wargonr tires would fit in it.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:57 am
Oh ah hmmmm… Okay after reading some more comments I finally figured out why my Honda Accra would give the same mileage as the much smaller wagronr even though I drive only occasionally, but very aggressively with the Accra. After I purchased the car I used Teflon engine coating (you put it with the oil after the 2000 kilo’s and drain it in the next oil change). You know this works because I once had an oil change before a long trip, where they forgot to put in any oil after draining the old and I drove 1000 kilo’s after which the engine started over heating and the engine oil warning lights came on. I thought the oil was low because I had it just changed and had to add in 4 quarts before it filled up. Full capacity is less than 5.
The petrol used makes a huge difference. Even among different vendors. So I always used Shell or BP (British petroleum). In high performance cars you notice it right away. Once I had gasohol put in because no other pumps around and I thought something was very wrong with the car. Mileage dropped and I thought 1 of the pistons had stopped working. Even using real petrol from different vendors make a difference. I used to also use high octane performance gas (92+ octane) YES it does make a HUGE difference in power, performance and mileage 10% at least. The difference is on a long trip having to visit the loo every 400 kilo’s or 500 plus with the high octane fuel.
Petrol Engines last at least 250,000 kilo’s. I had 200,000 in 10 years with my Accra and I never had engine trouble in 15 years. I gave it away in the end because selling it seemed like selling family. It still acted and looked new and I drove it like a go cart.
May 15th, 2006 at 7:01 am
Hi all,
I have gone enough through this forum completely and go more confused to conclude for the BEST BUY.
I understand santro looks more like a car than Wr but, Can anyone please suggest me the more economical purchase in terms of mileage, utility, space and safety within the two (Wagonr or Santro erlx).
Thanx in advance
May 15th, 2006 at 10:10 am
Subham….they only gave me a 20,000 cash discount…apart from that four mats, dicky mats …thats it…No Music System …Generally Maruti never gives any discount ? Becoz they believe that there vehicals doesnt need any promos to sell…they r the market leadersin small cars so all there vehicals sells like Hot Cake…So Subham…u have to press them for whatever u want…they will not give u anything for free…what have they promised you?
May 16th, 2006 at 10:56 pm
Hi,
I booked the santro XL Metallic Last week at Trident. On road Price 394976.
I approached both Advaith and Trident. But when you go for loan better go trident.Because their EMI is low comparaed to Advaith people.
Waiting for Delivary.
May 17th, 2006 at 1:38 am
Hi Mahi,
One of my friend booked a Santro XL from Advaith this saturday.His on road price price was 4.00 lacs.How come your on -road price is less . And how can you say Trident’s EMI is less than Advaith. EMI depends on Banks not on the dealers….I am confused ? Can you be a lil clear on this.
May 17th, 2006 at 2:40 am
Better go for Santro XL. Maruti Wagon R is 4 seater. But Santro is 5 seater. Comfortable for family. My vote is Santro Xing XL and top most models
May 17th, 2006 at 6:07 am
hi
rick, I finally got my Santro XL…
thanx a lot to all of u for ur inputs and views..
driving santro is gr8
manouverability is gr8
in short “i’m lovin it”
take care
May 17th, 2006 at 11:40 am
Mr. Uttam do’t be confused.Go for Santro.
May 17th, 2006 at 11:44 am
Looks matters most specially in Cars.
May 17th, 2006 at 1:57 pm
There is fight between me n my wife on whether to go for Santro erlx XO or indica xeta.Keeping in mind the pros n cons as well as driving experience, can anyone suggest which one to go for?
May 18th, 2006 at 12:36 am
Dear Mr. Prakash Advani,
I purchased Santro XO about 50 days ago and have done about 1600 kms. The average is Hyderabad city is around 12 kms with full AC. Some additives manufacturers have advised me to add some additives along with fuel once is few months to increase the mileage.
what is teflon coating of engine. How useful these are? will you pl. adivse me on these.
If you approve of fuel additives which brand are best and how much more mileage one can get.
With regards.
May 19th, 2006 at 6:54 am
Hi
I am planning to take Santro (ERLX) XL Model.
Contacted Talwar hyundai ,hyderabad dealer.
That guy quoted Rs 394570 - onroad price
Discounts
Free insurance(13000)
Corporate discount of Rs 3000 .
He didn’t mention about any freebies like teflon coating,mud flaps and the amount of discount from bank if we take loan.
If any one bought car by taking loan can you please tell me which bank offers low interest per lakh.Tenure i am looking for is 5years.
Appreciate if you can provide help for above.
May 19th, 2006 at 8:01 am
WAGONR FEELS A BIT LACKING IN WIDTH . BUT DRIVING COFORT OF WAGONR IS BETTER THAN SANTRO . SANTRO HAS BETTER LOOKS AND THEIR LOWER MODELS KX & KS ARE VERY COMPETITIVELY PRICED….
May 20th, 2006 at 3:58 am
Hi all,
I am a student n want to buy a used santro in hyderabad. Can any 1 plz let me know where can i have a best deal?? i am looking for a model between 2000 and 2003. I will really appretiate if i also get to know the addresses of dealers who can be trusted.
Thanks.
May 20th, 2006 at 1:46 pm
I plan to purchase a new one. I test drove both Santro GL as well as Tata Indica Zeta DLS. I found Indica more spacious and with good interiors than Santro. Zeta being a new vehicle, can you suggest me which one is good in performance?
May 21st, 2006 at 6:54 am
Since it is not a Indica vs santro or Indica vs Wagon r forum,but for me u should go for Indica xeta if u are ready to compromise on mileage.Indica xeta is a 1400 cc engine and more powerful than santro and wagon r.It’s price is very much less than santro and wagon r.Spare Parts are very cheap.Its more Spacious.Its Interiors are dashing.Its mileage is below 12ms/litre in city and 14 kms/litre on highway.
May 22nd, 2006 at 12:47 am
Suchi
I have booked Santro ERLX XL from Kun United in Hyderabad.
Onroad price for Metallic version in Rs 394737 less Insurance (Rs 13071)
Free accessories:
Remote Central Locking
Seat covers
Sun film
Teflon coating
Mattings, Mud flaps, Dicky mat
I also checked with Lakshmi and Talwars and Found Kun’s deal the best.
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:10 am
Hi Suchi,
If you want to buy ur car on Loan…then go for SBI,the Loan amount is 2064 per lac…but you need a gurantor for SBI… CITIBANK comes second with 2084 per lac ,ICICI should give u 2154 per lac and HDFC - 2136. So if you get CITIBANK,they r the best but they will finance only 90% of the Invoice price of ur car…If you go for ICICI they will give u 95 % or even 100% loan on road price.
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:12 am
mritunjaya,
The Teflon coating is for the body of the car,it keeps the shine on the car and avoids any scratch on the body.It is no where used to the paint the engine of the car. this is for ur info pls.
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:18 am
Sudip / Kannan ,
This is not the right form to talk about Indica Xeta, but i would advice you guys to look out for the engine first which is the HEART of any vehicals before buying.LOOKS DOESNOT MATTER MUCH, IF YOUR CAR STARTS GIVING PROBLEM THE LOOK OF THE CAR WONT SOLVE UR PROBLEM.I have heard that Xeta is not a good car, there is a problem with the gear box.Do your research thoroughly and then take a decision.Would recommend to choose between Wagon R or Santro.
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:34 am
Hi,
I found out from KUN hyundai,hyderabad and TALWAR hyundai
KUN and TALWAR gave me same quotation for the vehicle.
Onroad price for Metallic version in Rs 394737 less Insurance (Rs 13071) and corporate discount of 4000 Rs
Free accessories:
Remote Central Locking
Seat covers–(is not provided ) by Talwar/KUN hyundai
Sun film—(Not Provided) by TALWAR/KUN HYUNDIA
Teflon coating
Mattings, Mud flaps, Dicky mat
They are saying that ICICI,HDFC offer 90%of loan on Ex-Showroom Price and only SBI offers 85% on ON ROAD Price(without guaranteer as my net income is greater than 30,000. May I know Rate of interest for all these mentioned banks.(for SBI i was told 2122 per lakh..is it correct)
What do you guys suggest?. what else can be bargained from Dealer?. i found out from two dealers and they both said same offers and accessories.
They said that other than the above free accessories they can’t give any kind of discounts?.
Please suggest as iam planning to book the vehicle by this saturday.
May 24th, 2006 at 3:34 am
Dear Prakash,
I baught santro eRLX XO model two months ago. I also have driven earlier version Zip plus. I find that Zip plus engine noise very low compared to eRLX. The company says that it is because of the positioning of engine is different ineRLX. There is a constant rotating sound underneath the foot pedal control which is more at low speed. This has started after I got the clutch loosened a bit for easy operations.
Pl. let me know if this is so with all eRLX versions.
May 24th, 2006 at 3:55 am
I have driven santro eRLX XO on Hyderabad- Mumbai road at speed of 130-140 kms/hour ( with AC), whenever road conditions were good and less traffic. The car is highly stable at these speeds. On steep down road it even touched 150 kms per hour without any vibration. Whoever said it is unstable at 90 plus speed is not correct. At Higher speed AC performance is best.
May 25th, 2006 at 3:35 am
Yes that is right that santro is not unstable at 90 + but the engine sounds increase drasticly aftrer 90
May 26th, 2006 at 3:48 am
Hi all,
I am a student n want to buy a used santro in hyderabad. Can any 1 plz let me know where can i have a best deal?? i am looking for a model between 2000 and 2003. I will really appretiate if i also get to know the addresses of dealers who can be trusted.
Thanks.
May 26th, 2006 at 7:13 pm
Hi Folks,
This is for every one who wants to compare santro and Wagon R
I tested both the cars my self
I felt santro’s performence with out AC on is good, but it fails to impress once the AC is on.
This is not the case with Wagon R with AC on ou can touch cruise at speeds of 130-135 Kms/hr
Santro doesnt go beyond 110 Kms/hr.
You dont just pay the money for engine alone , you pay for sunpension and handling.
Wagon R was clear winner in this front as it has better back suspension , and with ABS it provides better lane stabolity than Santro.
People complain about gear box and engine harshness at high revs,
Yes I agree to it but the problem is not in the Wagon R but with Maruthi it self
MUL provides cheap quality engine oil and gear box oil but Hyndai is better in this aspect.
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But you can alway buy Mobil 5-50W or Penzzoil 5-50W for engine and Mobil or valvoline APIGL-4 gade Gear box oil with Bhadral gear box addtive fixes the issue.
My car is damm smooth and engine is not noicey at high revs, Please dont belive so called auto experts these people doesnt know about the quality of the oil to used.
Minral oil’s doesnt provide smooth performence but also wear’s out the engine part.
I have M800 run only on mobil 5-50W synthetic oil , man it rocs even at close 2 lac Kms, it’s smooth and engine is freash as new one.
Santro may be good car but it’s only a three valve car , It boosts it self of being a five seater but who want’s to go in five seater car ? better buy a SUV instead.
With reacent price reduction and Free insurence Santro is no longer cheaper than Wagon R.
premia ooks are breth taking , I am not coviced ny the looks of Santro some thing like makeup to a Mickey mouse.
Santro is not fast as Wagon R with AC on , this because of having only three valves.
May 27th, 2006 at 5:37 am
I would like to go for Santro xing, XO model. Will the prices come down during the monsoon? Is it worth waiting? Im expecting more offers during monsoon period. Or should I go ahead and buy now?
May 28th, 2006 at 3:05 am
I fully agree with Mr. Raghunath’s opinion on santro and wagonR. I personally feel that Santro is an over projected vehicle though it is much premitive to WagonR in different aspects like hydraulic steering mechanism (which is a dated technology), lesser No. of valves per cylinder, ordinary type odo/trip meter etc.
Some how I donot like its ‘look’ also, which appears to be ‘Korean Frog’.
In order to evaluate between WagonR and Santro, I can suggest a simple ‘acid test’. Switch on the air conditioner and drive both the vehicles at top speed(Santro may not go above 110-120 KM on level road, where as you can easily touch 130-140KM in a WagonR). Now observe the engine noise. Santro engine will be crying or roaring for help while WagonR engine will be silky smooth. Try this. You can easily identify the quality difference between Japanese and Korean Technologies. However, one aspect you have to admit. The inner finishing provided in a Santro is more impressive than that of WagonR. However, this is less significant in comparison with many other major factors.
May 28th, 2006 at 11:04 am
I have driven the Santro upto 140 Kmph with AC and there was no problem. Also Santro’s AC is extremely powerful, I use it everyday and works well.
May 28th, 2006 at 2:26 pm
Hi everyone,
I have been driving Wagon R for the past three and a half years and I haven’t spent a penny on the repair of this car belive me guys it’s the best you can get in this catogery. Most of my friends who had bought Santro just for looks are experiencing frequent trips to garage and their cars crying for help. Santro is cheap on technology, whereas the japnese competitor gives you a hassle free ride and engine life, also the ride is much more superior and crispy in a wagon R
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:21 am
Wagon R is a good car with many things BUT it is still a ladies car.Santro e-rlx ’s mileage is better than Wagon R.I travel 516 kms Amritsar-Chandigarh-Amritsar Today and with 30 litres of Petrol and still my car have 5+ litres left in the tank.You people figure out Avg. Its 19+.
June 4th, 2006 at 12:31 am
I recently booked Santro XL Metallic for the following prices. On Road is 3.9L with freebies.
1. Nippon Audio System with 4 speakers
2. Body Color Bumpers
3. All mats
4. Remote Locking
5. Reverse Horn
6. Teflon Coating..
Let me know if anybody has better deal than this.. am based out of chennai.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:13 am
Hi!
I am convinced by all the feed back (that I have got) that Santro eRLX is a better pick than Wagon R!!!
Hey SantroXing users plzz guide me, cuz I want 2 buy a Santro XingeRLX but not yet decided as to what model of it is good for a user like me . I wud use it mostly on city roads amidst that heavy traffic n comfort is the 1st priority for me !
-c varun.
June 5th, 2006 at 11:35 pm
Varun…my suggestion is go for Wagon R….it is very comfortable to drive on city roads amidst that heavy traffic….turning radius is small…better road grip and above all it is tall…which gives u good view of the road.
I disagree with Ajaj…Mr Ajay….what r the parameters for a car to be so called LADIES…..pls define….then can you call Scorpio or TATA Sumo to be a Ladies car….because in the advertisement it is shown a Girl driving both the cars….pls substantiate your points with proper example before posting in the Blog.Thankyou
June 7th, 2006 at 4:05 am
Dear Varun,
Buy santro eRLX either XL or XO both are value for your money. Santro’s driving position is much better than Wagon R as it gives better road view without blind spots for night turn. Avoid dark sunfilm for better driving clarity in the night ( I have not put any film at all). I get ( XO model)around 12 kms per litre on full AC in Hyderabad. After second service it may increase by another Km.
Gears shifting, which you use frequently in city is very smooth compared to Wagon R and makes driving effortless. AC ofcourse is powerful.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:32 am
Let me share my experience…. our family owns both Wagonr and Santro xing. I have driven both santro and wagonr. In general both are good vehicles. Based on my experience I have listed pros and cons of both the vehicle. You decide which is better car.
Pros of Wagonr:
1. Electronic power steering
2. Excellent space management (better than santro)
3. Fuel efficiency (better than santro)
4. Service
5. shocks are better than santro
6. cost of maintenance is cheaper
Cons of Wagonr:
1. Rear seat is smaller than santro
2. Gear shift is not as smooth as in santro
3. Shape. Yes Santro’s shape is bit better.
Pros of Santro Xing:
1. Shape
2. Rear seat (better than wagonr)
3. Gear shift (better than wagonr)
Cons of Santro xing:
1. Fuel efficiency
2. cost of maintenence is more
3. space management is poor. (leg, boot space)
4. driving comfort is not as good as in Wagonr
5. Shocks are not as good as in Wagonr
June 7th, 2006 at 11:56 pm
Advertisements and real thing are not the same at all.Tata sumo is not at all a family car.It is a Taxi.In reality how many of you people see ladies driving TATA SUMO very rare.I agree that wagon r is easy to drive in city because of its sides are compact.But you can’t accomodate 3 person in rear seats.They will be suffocated on long journey in wagon r.Ladies always prefers cars which are easy to drive and need less driving skills.In japan wagon r is used like a mini SUV.Japenese peoples are small.We are talking here about cars and wagon r is more like a milk van.It is look like omni.Santro e-rlx mileage is equals or better than wagon r.Previously before e-rlx the wagon r is just better by half a km/litre.Santro is euro 3 and wagon r is bharat 3.Wagon r’s space accomodate more luggage than people.
June 8th, 2006 at 2:07 am
Samdesh..
Yesterday, I was looking at WagonR VXi (Metallic) with ABS and Airbags, the cost of it ex-showroom is Rs. 405667 in hyderabad while Santro Euro III - XO - ABS (Metallic) is Rs. 383981.
Which of Santro and WagonR models are you comparing? Also please tell me the difference in mileage and the frequency of maintenance that need to done on Santro which will make the cost of maintenance higher?
Has anybody travelled with 5 people in WagonR and did they feel comfortable? That seems to be main issue for me as we tend to travel full house as far as possible.. Also,
I am about 5′ 2” in height.. so considering rear visiblity etc into consideration ..pls let me know which one will be better while reversing etc.. or do you suggest me to go for Alto Lxi or so?
Is Airbags feature not there in Santro..I am pretty new to driving..it will be my first car.
Prakash , pls let me know your ideas too..
June 9th, 2006 at 7:54 am
Satish,
We have wagonR primea and xing XO. Here is the milage I am getting.
wagonr:
on Highway: 18 with AC on partially
in city: 13 with AC on partially
Santro xing:
on Highway: 16 with AC on partially
in city: 11 with AC on partially
As regard to Maintenance, frequency of visits to service station which makes Santro more costly.
as regard to 3 people sitting in the rear seat, Yes I agree with you. santro is more confortable than wagonr.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:40 am
Dear Samdesh,
Pl. test the mileage either with full AC or without. Partial testing is vague as tolerance to heat change from person to person. One may restart AC after five minutes where as other may start after two minutes. Therefore it does not always give a correct mileage. I get around 12.0 to 12.5 Km with Reliance fuel on Santro eRLX- XO in city with full AC in Hyderabad.
Try with full/or without AC.
With best regards.
June 12th, 2006 at 12:05 am
Hey Mrityuanjay
how much dou you get witout AC ..pls comment I have XL RLX hope the milege would be same in my car too
June 12th, 2006 at 9:51 am
hi everybody…recently i bought .WAGON R LXI..ITS A AUWSOME CAR….BETTER CONTROL ….BETTER STABILITY IN DRIVING.& OBVIOUSLY BETTER IN MILLEGE THAN SANTRO ………..ROOM SPACE IS SO GOOD .ONE FEELS COMFORTABLE EVEN AFTER 5 HRS OF CONTINOUS DRIVING.PREVIOUSLY I OWNED A WAGON LX VERSION.WANTED 2 CHANGE 4 POWER STEARING..ASKED MANY PEOPLE 4 WHAT 2 BUY …….EVEN THOSE WHO ONWED A SANTRO 4 LAST 2 YEAR SAID ONLY 1 NAME WAGON R LXI OR VXI
June 13th, 2006 at 12:23 am
Dear Rick,
I never tried without AC I have been using AC all the time. May be in winter I may not use and may get mileage figures. However I presume I should be getting around 14 kms without AC in city. XL or XO should get the same mileage as both have power stearing. I was told that down the XL models, without Power stearing, give a better mileage of +0.5 to 1 km per litre extra althoug I have no authentic data on this.
Pl let me know how much mileage are you getting with &/or without AC.
June 13th, 2006 at 11:01 pm
Hi,
Maruti is supposed to launch WagonR LPG model this month. Anyone has any idea about the specs, prices etc?
June 14th, 2006 at 1:32 am
My Santro not have power stearing. I give you authentic fact about my car’s mileage. Total fuel consumption = 85 litres. Travelled Distance= 1466 kms. Road Conditions= Highway 700+city500+rural 250+[sometimes no road][maximum gear is 3 on bad rural roads].Average 1466/85 =17.24 km/litre. For Better Fuel economy I usually drive under 90 km/h and use AC on 2nd point.If you handle your speed carefully and proper gear shifting this car can give you 19-20 kn/litre in winter season.And power stearing can cost upto 2 km/litre.Santro and Wagon r are small cars and not meant for racing.Unnecessary acceleration is not good for ur car and fuel economy.
June 14th, 2006 at 11:40 pm
Hey Mritunjaya ,
I get around 14 -15 without AC
Ajay using AC on second point doest make any diffrence …if the AC is on its ON ,thats just fan speed setting wont make much diffrence on milege wat u can do is use AC after 3 gear onwards if u want better fuel economy
Thanks & Regards
Rick
June 16th, 2006 at 5:16 am
hi!
i am realy confused abt whether to buy a santro or a wagonR.
i found that that rear seats are smaller in WagonR than santro…….
is this the only advantage of santro?moreover which one is more suited as a family car.
June 19th, 2006 at 4:59 am
Hi,
Any ideas about recent deals on Santro Xing XL in Bangalore? As I read in the thread, How do you get discounts on Loans too?
Regards,
Vibhor
June 22nd, 2006 at 3:12 am
Hi Vibhor, I recently bought a Santro Xing XL from the Advaith showroom on Richmond Road.
Must tell you, i liked the car more when I went for the test drive…the gear shoft was sooo smooth, the brakes were very strong…which goes to say that the car definetly gets better and smoother with time (well, i hope so ;))
Its very very spacious in front, both leg room and head. Plus one more thing is, i have noticed that ur head does n ot touch the sun shade in front when u move the seat closer to the dashboard unlike in a Zen or and any Maruti car for that matter.
But i must tell you that this Advaith was really really slow adn very ery clumsy regardign paper work. They were giving me only two speakrs and the music system free. In spite of me completing all the formalities from my side, they delayed the delivery by more than 15 days citing some of the other lame excuse…in the end i lost my patience and calld up the manager direclty adn blasted everyone royally…even then it got delayed fr 2 days after they gave me deadline…so this time i went adn said that i will take them to the consumer court and sue them adn that i wanted all my money back……guess what! They got so nervous that when they gave me the car, they incorporated all the accessories possible- mud flaps (they dnt gve that free!), steerign cover, seat cover, body cover, back speakers, electronic locking, floor mats and other small things! WEll- thats how i got my free stuff.
These Advaith people will handle all the loan formalities. I went for 5 yrs loan. DP is lcose to 1 lac plus 5500 for body colour bumper. Emi is somewhere 6.6 coz icici is charging 11% interest. It costs about 4 lac now. SBI gives 7 yr loan.
This is teh first time we’re buyign a Santro in teh family. Our other cars are ALto, Zen adn Esteem….but on any given day the Xing is much much classier. They promised a mileage of 14. I hope i get it!
Bt all said and done- at least they are btter than Maruti guys who dnt give ANYTHING free. I know it for sure bcoz just last year June my fiance bought an ALto XL and they gave only teh mats- but he had to buy the boot mat!
June 26th, 2006 at 6:53 am
Hi Annetie and all those who deal with Advaita,
I have been reading a lot in these columns about Advaitya’s response to the buyer. In this regard I have to tell you that the Hyderabad dealer Talwar, from whom I baught Santro eRLX is amazing dealing with customer. I took my car delivery in unbelievable 45 minutes along with purchase bill in fact he did all “pooja”. The car was given within 15 days of my booking with every accessory fitted to perfection. Till date I have no complaints about anything.
Time the manufacturer Hyundai becomes aware of this dealer before it is too late.
June 26th, 2006 at 7:25 am
Sir,
We own a daewoo matiz in our family and the problem is with the music system. we are having a daewoo original system which has a output of 750 watts and there are two speakers attached in the front doors. I want to increase the sound and can u suggest me whether to put a woofer and a amplifier and extra speakers in it. My budget is till 2000 rs.
June 27th, 2006 at 6:09 am
Hi,
Atlast i made right choice brininging Santro XL model after reading all the opinions. My dealer was Talwar hyundai and agent was sudhir mantri who was excellent in dealing all the formalities right from booking till delivery and giving the accessories though i didn’t get much freebies as said by few of the banglorites. The executives were so supportive in all the paperwork and during the bank formalities in delivering the vehicle in committed time.I woudl definitely recommend Talwar hyundai,hyderabad to any of my friends whoever opt for Santro. and Will post you about the driving experience and mileage in coming months.
The freebies i got is mudflaps,mats,remote locking,body cover
Please let me know whether it is feasible to take Car accessories like
Glass Film,seat covers,music system,speakers from showroom or external auto service centers.Let me know.
June 29th, 2006 at 12:09 am
Hi suchi,
Pl buy all accessories from Talwar as the quality of their music system is good, genuine and original from sony or Panasonic. I have opted for panasonic. They do take responsibility for accessories which is good.
For films however, go the one opposite to Paradise tea shop, name I dont remember, but he is the best( he sells toughened glasses, wind screens etc.
June 29th, 2006 at 1:38 am
Hi Suchi,
First of all, congrats on buying a new car!
You know, I was thinking, that had you bargained a little more, Im sure you would have got lot many accessories free. Hyundai is very different from Maruti. See, it depends from dealer to dealer as to what all they will give you as freebies, but if you drop a hint that you might be interested in some other dealer and throw all that funda around subtely, these dealers do in the end give in to some more…..
Regarding buying accessories such as speakers, seat covers, glass film etc, i think it would be better if you buy it from outside, as Hyundai products are wayyyy too costly in the name of being genuine products….A blaupunkt stereo will come up to 6-7K depending on what make you are going for, speakers will cost you 4K for 2 speakers….so it might come upto a total of 11-12K…..but try not to go for the cheap ones that some service centre sell, coz u’l end up with very low quality- which you will find out within a year…
BTW do keep posting about the mileage bit….coz i bought a brand new Xing XL two weeks back, and I have noticed that im gettign a mileage of only 9k/L ….when I clarified with the service guys, they said that this is a common problem with all new Xing customers, and that the mileage with soar to 13-14 once the first service is done……
June 30th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
Hi,
After reading so many +ve review of Santro I am planning to purcahse the Hyundai Santro XL in Bhopal for my parents.
Just wanted to know following (I am first time buyer of Car).
1) The Ex showroom price in Bhopal is for XL is 3.48, How much approx I have to shell out for Insurance and Tax and other stuff.. (Rough Idea).
2) How much discount and Freebies usually I can bargain for.
Thanks in advance for help guys..!
Regards
Samir
July 1st, 2006 at 7:08 am
hi friends !!
I have just booked SantoXL with ABS after doing lot of R&D. I hope i have done a right thing.(This vehicle is to be driven on Shimla Roads)
July 3rd, 2006 at 1:08 pm
Hi Annette,
Thanks for sharing the info… Since I didn’t get a good deal with Advaith, ,I booked my Santro XL with Trident. Haven’t got the vehicle yet, but its been already more than 2 weeks since I had booked the vehicle. Let’s see how it goes…
Regards,
Vibhor
July 4th, 2006 at 6:07 am
Hi Vibhor, its so nice to know that you booked your car.
I am not very pleased by Advaith’s after sales service myself
Adn guess what just yesterday i had to send my car to the service station (BTW my car is just 2 weeks old) as the tyre was gettin deflated just after one day of filling the air! It happened several times and i got worried. So they had a look and changed the tubes and valves of the tyres as they were defective!
And guess what, when i got a flat tyre (becoz of the faulty tyres they gave me in the first place) in the middle of the road, and i call up the helpline, I get the reply “Its only a flat tyre. You can change it yourself madam.” So much so for Advaith’s helpline service!
To tell you the truth, I dont feel very excited with my car anymore
July 4th, 2006 at 7:00 am
Hi annette,
When i inquired about music player..sony two models were referred to me by service centre and they costed like 6990 and 7990(he said he’ll give me grey market price for 5200 and 6200) and rear speakers he’s recommended JBL(from USA)(300 watts,100RBS)for Rs3800.
Please let me know if the products i mentioned are really worth taking from service centre or hyundai showroom. He gives his bill and not warranty from the products itseems.
Can you please suggest whats good in seat covers(ppl who took Leather seats complained that they’r not comfortable as they don’t absorb sweat).
Please suggest which will be good for seat covers.
July 5th, 2006 at 12:13 am
Hi Suchi,
Sony is a good brand no doubt and has been in the market longer than Blaupunkt, so there’s no problem with the brand…the only thing is that I feel that guy is quoting a little high on it….the reason i know is that i had contacted Maruti when i was planning on a Zen, adn they quoted a Sony system for 5-6K plus 4K for speakers….
Also you have to make sure that you get warranty for the system, coz u can never be too sure about electronic products. Plus Sony systems are mostly imported, so u must have the warranty to be on the safe side. If the system comes inbuilt with the car, even then the company gives you a seperate warranty card, so you can understand how important it is…..I would suggest that you inquire outside as well…..if its not possible try to bargain for less price along with the warranty…
Regarding seat covers, leather looks very good…it is classy indeed…and its no doubt comfortable…If you are not going to use your car for very long rides, mostly for in city driving, then i dnt think there’s anythign wrong with it….The only thing is that leather can be very expensive and must be handled with care, unlike seat covers made from synthetic cloth which can be washed, and you can afford to have two sets instead of just one
July 5th, 2006 at 11:31 am
Hi Annette,
You remembered in your initial reply that you got colored bumpers for your Santro. Did they come colored from the Hyundai factory only or did the dealer (Advaith) color it for you? Latter is what has been told to me by Trident. They told me that this is the normal procedure & there won’t be any difference as the material comes from Hyundai only & their painting system is computerised etc… Is this true? What has been your experience?
Regards,
Vibhor
July 5th, 2006 at 1:16 pm
Hi Everyone,
I understand that the Milk Van has European roots!!!:
The Wagon R: His origins are Hungarian and originally the Wagon R was called the OPEL Agila , its being Badge manufactured by Suzuki, A mixed thoroughbred.
I bought a WagonR VXi in Dec05,when there was a huge discount in Bangalore. Didnt look around too much,nor go into wrangling on a choice Between The Santro And The Jap. ……….No regrets Damn fine car. Wonderful ,courteous service Bimal motors, Bangalore.
Recently i had to drop off at the airport,a friend who had tonnes of luggage,and the other car in our stable ,an Ikon, was full of happy people, but beleive you me….. too little boot space…And there comes the Wagon R, ,if I am not mistaken,the Samurai that this chap is, taking in all that luggage was awsome.Since that day we hold this fellow in some awe and respect.
Happy Driving.
July 6th, 2006 at 1:10 am
Hi,
Thanks to all the views and reviews about Santro and WagonR. After a month of speculation, I have gone in for WagonR. I drove both the cars and both handled similarly (WagonR was a bit better). Santro gave a grand feel from inside (interior and plastic quality). But I was always biased for brand Maruti and its service network. The feedback for WagonR was better as compared to Santro from my colleagues.
Its been 2 weeks since I took the delivery and driven appx 500 KM. The car rides great even through the potholes on the Pune roads. The car gives a good feel of control. As far as avg. is concerned even though it is very early to speak, it is appx 15km (driven only in city so far).
This is for Suchi,
I would suggest you to go for a Pioneer music system. My family is into car accessories business and over the years Poineer music systems have proved to be far better than a Sony or Blaupunkt (relatively new in market). Blaupunkty speakers are good.
July 7th, 2006 at 4:14 am
Hey Santroites ,
Can somebody tell me how much wld alloy wheels cost me for santro XL eRLX and which is good brand for same
Thanks & Regards
July 7th, 2006 at 5:29 pm
Hi every body,
I ve been going thru all these reviews for the last few months.I am working with a MNC in orissa.I ve just learnt driving a car.Very soon I am going to buy a car.So the same old question.Which out of these two.What I believeis after going thru all these reviews i am more confused.
Prakash,
I ud rather request U to guide me that which one sud I pick.As per my requirements r concerned,My daily driving ll be some what 30km.road condition is not that good at this part of the country.But I very concious about looks and comfort.
Or should I go for a second hand one.If so what ud be the best price for a good second hand one.plz…….plz……..plz……help me,chosing the best deal for me.Cant wait any longer……..
July 9th, 2006 at 10:47 am
Hi Dev,
Thanks for posting on my blog.
As a first car you I would suggest that you buy a second hand one so that you do all your learning on that one.
You can decide which one to buy based on the postings here, I bought the Santro based on my decision. Its a good buy and hasn’t given me any problem till now.
Happy Driving
July 10th, 2006 at 12:12 am
Hi Vibhor,
Thats correct. Even for my car, the bumper was painted by the dealer…the quality, colour everything is the same….what the dealers get from the outlet is the original model with whatever features the manufacturer is providing the car with…….the XL doesnt come with body coloured bumpers, only the XO has that……so the dealer will do it for you at an additional cost……they will require a day for colouring it….
Regards,
Annette
July 11th, 2006 at 4:52 am
santro engine is not so durable. engine life is less. does not run properly on CNG . It back fire air sometimes.rear seat is not copmfortable.
otherwise its drive is best.good pick up.good A/c
July 11th, 2006 at 11:42 pm
Hey Jawad
Can u pls explain wat is the problem with CNG on Santro
July 13th, 2006 at 9:20 am
Hi All,
Maruti is coming up with a new Wagon R model this December-06.Belive me it looks amazing….this was the only negitive thing about Wagon R. I guess after launching this new model Santro will have a tough competation.
July 14th, 2006 at 12:39 am
hey do u have new wagon r pics????
i am so curious……..
July 15th, 2006 at 2:12 pm
Hi Guys,
I have gone through the forum but still can not conclude which one is better, wagon r or santro.
I have heard from one of my friend that seats of Wagonr and Santro both are not that comfortable than other cars like zen and esteem. Kindly guide.
July 17th, 2006 at 4:07 am
Hi every one,
I would like to know about the the best deals for buying a Wagon R in Bangalore.
Would also like to know if any dealer is providing free Registration, becos I have heard some dealers are providing free Insurance.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:10 am
remember guys..its not a car not a wagon, its a wagon R.
the tall boy concept was originally introduced in wagon R by by suzuki but hyundai introduced the santro earlier than suzuki did the wagon R in india.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:11 am
Hi Peeyush,
Yes I do have the new Wagon R pic with me…post ur mail ID where I can send u the pic.It looks are very similar to GM’s -Spark, very stunning lookings with big Head Lamps.
July 18th, 2006 at 6:16 am
Hi,
I am in Delhi and want to buy my first car. I am on the lookout for Santro.
which one to go for XO or XL what are the best onroad price and freebes offered. I will be getting it financed. Kindly Help me.
Is it worth waiting till Oct for festive offers.
July 18th, 2006 at 9:35 pm
Hi Rajiban,
I will be back to India,(Delhi) after 2 yrs in Aug end.I need to buy a car as soon as possible.I would like to see the new Wagon R model to check if its worth a wait.Pls send the pictures to neel(.)paulAThotmail(.)com
To all others reading this forum,
I had bought a Santro LP (not xing) in 2002.I drove it for 2.5 yrs & sold it to a relative in 2004 after driving 46000kms.I was very very satisfied with my car’s performance.Power steering was amazing & had a linear feel quite unlike Wagon R’s on off type electric power steering(the PS switches off when you are over 25kmph I think).Excellent AC.I found the engine very refined only makes a low humming sound.Had driven at speed greater than 110 kmph with ac & faced no stability issues.(at higher speeds the engine sounds were more bcos mine was 1086cc engine)
People say the spare parts are higher than Wagon R but I never needed any spare parts apart from accidental damages. (only the clutch seems to wear off at the end & needed change after I sold it ).I had alternator problem but it was changed under warranty.I also changed my tyres to slightly bigger imported tubeless ones which I found very comfortable to drive & brake.
My Santro LP had gr8 breaks, but when I checked the Xing XP (belonging to another relative) I was dissapointed to see how the breaks tend to lock.It was pain to bring the car to gradual stop as before.Have other new Santro owners felt the same?
Prior to Santro I had Zen & maruti 800, with Zen I used to have terrible back aches.(I am 5f10in)
Paul
July 19th, 2006 at 1:57 am
hi,
i am in junagadh and want to buy my first car. i parchesing intresh in sentro gescar and wagnor gescar. I would like to know about the the best deals for buying a Wagon R and sentro in saurastra.
I am looking for good Average and Pickup in city(junagadh)
July 19th, 2006 at 4:24 am
Hi Rajiban
Please send me new Wagon R pics at
peeyushbhatt@rediffmail.com
Thanks in advance..
July 19th, 2006 at 6:44 am
Folks, WagonR new model is being released end of this month (July). Believe me, It really looks Great. Also there is a WagonR DUO that is being introduced. DUO Meaning Both LPG and Petrol.
So this should be some efficiency improver in terms of mileage when the Petrol Rates are sky rocketing..
July 20th, 2006 at 12:45 am
Hey guys…… this is Sunny here… i recently had an accident wid my good ol’ Santro ZipPlus……that too at over 130kmph…. guess wat??? i dint hav ne stability issues… the car was damn stable nd offered excellent braking . N the power steering was Mind-Blowing!!! n evn though i had the kiss at 130kmph…… only the bumper n bonnet needeed a change… the radiator dint evn hav a scratch evn though the collision was head-on!!! n i hav a fuel efficiency af abt 15kmpl on avg city conditions….. but the clutch wore off soon at 25000kms … ofcourse it may be bcos o’ my rash clutch abuse too …. lol …. i nevr saw a wagonr over take me on my santro… evn though i turned the car at tht high speed.. it dint slip off the ground… nor did it loose control or grip unlike the wagonr…. n wat more??? the santro’s E-Epsilon MPFi engine is inspired frm Formula-! design…. which answers for the engine’s rumming , roaring sounds at high accelerations. at low rpm…. it just makes a quite humm. . the ac is ok.. I also do screeches in my car at abt 40kmph… but nevr had a loss of control evn on sandy roads…. the car turned at abt 270 degrees but nevr lifted any tyre off the ground, jus like the lion king.. n know wat??? Evn aftr such a crucial accident, i dint hav a bruise or muscle twist atleast…. i was scratchless…. but the front seats broke though due to the impact of the rear passengers… n my car was fully loaded wid 6 passengers at that time…. 130kmph wid 6 passengers is not a joke … rite??? jus try it wid a wagonr…. n if u want ur santro a sporty sound…. just remove the air filter n see for urself….. u wil scold urself for not knowing this …. it gives a galloping sound that is loud enough… Jus like the sports cars in the computer game NFS.. no diff in sound at all. the loud galloping thumping of the mosterous f-1 inspired e-epsilon engine is quite unreaachable by a wagonr…. ALL U WAGONR OWNERS MAY ENVY US SANTRO OWNERS… but facts are facts…… mail me at ksunny_8905@yahoo.co.in for more details or queries!!! awaiting ur envies………. SUNNY SIGNING OFF!!!
July 20th, 2006 at 12:59 am
and whoever talked of pickup…… i bet u dint drive a Santro 1.1L . it is pretty enough to leav the ford ikon in the lurch…. i personally had a street race wid a new ford ikno n my santro 1.1L .. n the othr was just watchin hopelessly as i zoomed past…….. with a roaring sound…… n highway drives??? thats nuthing to santro…. it jus goes on smoothly humming a low purr wen u drive it…. but wen u want the power….. it responds quick enough n the speed eventually rises just as the roaring sound… n for the safety matters…. the accident at 130kmph dint scratch me or the radiator…. this answers ur safety questions.. the santro’s metal pillars are more than 3 times stronger than wagonr.. both in arrangement design and strength… the meta used is much stronger than wagonr- which gets a dent even if u hit a dog….. lol evn the side beams of Santro are fuller than Wagonr… they r denser …. so u r safer……. n the maintainance??? i nevr had a reapair in my snatro…. evn wid my rash driing … i only gave it for a periodic servicing once every 6 months…. evn though it doesnt need it…. just for my satisfaction of top-notch performace… the only thing where i wasnt satisfied was the suspension….. which is bumpier….. but it pays off for the stability… imagine turning the Tall-Boy car at 90+kmph.
even sharp curves dint make the care to bend to a side…..isnt this enough now to compromise on the suspension??? cos safety is important than our comfort…n abt the gear box….. i went at 60kmph on 2 gear… 135kmph on 4th gear…. tht was my highest speed clock as of date cos of our hyderabadi traffic… thn more how much speed wil the 5th gear offer??? so its for u to guess.. n evn wid full acceleration at low gears(only 1 , 2 nd 3 gears) i cud achieve a mileage of abt 11-12 kmpl. Aint tht enough??? now wats competition??? i dunno… cud ne 1 plz explain me??
July 20th, 2006 at 1:29 am
Today Wagon R’s LPG model DUO in the market n i test drive it and compared with santro , i think i will go for WAGON R DUO
Its nice man
July 21st, 2006 at 12:41 am
Guys!!,
Is Switching from Petrol to LPG gas conversion good for santro ERLX XL, Right now the mileage is 9-10kmpL( have completed only 100 kms ).(I was told that it gives 14-16 km pL with A/C.)
. based on increase in price of Petrol can we consider this option but let me know cons and pros of shifting to LPG from Petrol.
Please let me know
July 23rd, 2006 at 5:54 am
I got some details & pictures of the new Wagon R from the below link. Hope this is useful.
http://www.globalautoindex.com/news.plt?no=1497
Thanks to all the view expressed in this blog. It is a good guide to take a decision on buying a Santro or Wagon R, though I am not seriously looking to buy a car in the near future. A BIG thanks to Prakash as well for starting this blog & giving his expert comments as and when required.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:39 am
Hi Peeyush and Paul,
I have mailed you the new Wagon R pic.Pls chk ur mails.This new Wagon R is replacing the ZEN .As you all must be knowing that MARUTI has stopped the production for ZEN,so they are launching this new model in that segment .You will get this both in LPG and Petrol varient.
July 26th, 2006 at 6:54 am
Hi Friends,
Did anybody have a testride of Wagon R Duo.
Please share the experience.
So my qn is whether to go for Santro or WagonR Duo
July 27th, 2006 at 4:02 am
I am confused between Santro and Tata indica DLS. I am looking for a second hand car around 2 ys old. And mainly my use of car in city on weekends. Can any one advice me ? I am confused about different persons opinions about these cars. I have consultaed car mechanic and they are saying to go ahead for Indica DLS while many car dealers are saying the maintenance cost of dls is high.
July 27th, 2006 at 6:12 am
Freinds, Read some of the opinions,same dilema I had between Wagon R and Santro regarding which one to select. Took test drive of both and was equally satisfied. But where I felt Wagon R had a slight minus is in its rear seat space - too congested and its BOX shape. But prower steering is really good and people say it gives a tint more mileage than santro. Where santro scored more is in its overall finishing and gear shifting.
So I selected a Santro I have drove only 500 so no comments regarding mileage etc…. but one thing it feels great to drive this car. Had a minor problem with a niggiling sound coming from one of the spring in drivers seat which they told can be corrected. Other that that its COOL.
July 28th, 2006 at 1:06 am
Hi,
I own a WR Vxi. I also own a Santro. There is no comparison between these two. WR is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better than the Santro in all respects. Stanto’s interior looks very cheap like made up of recycled plastic. There are lots of bumps and gutters on the dash board of Santro,which will help only in accumulating dust.
July 29th, 2006 at 1:06 am
New Wagon R is still not cool as Santro eRLX , I have seen it on road doesnt look that good it more or less still ol model besides what they have done in front could hv looked good for bigger cars but not for small ones .
July 29th, 2006 at 1:15 am
But on the other hand LPG DUO certainly make lot of sense , marketwise and consumerwise also.
CNG & LPG are definately fuels of future cars.
July 31st, 2006 at 8:17 am
I am looking to buy a small car and have santro, indica xeta fitted with CNG , wagon r as options. Please advise which one to go for
August 1st, 2006 at 7:49 am
I owns a Santro Xing XP and my Dad owns a Santro Zip Plus. Both I feel very comfortable and Reliable to ride. The only minus point I see with Santro is high maintainace cost (other than regular service). The parts are available from the dealers only and the company charges a very premium price. Other than this I think Santro is a better option than WangonR
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:10 am
Hey guys, Im back again…and guess what…I’ve been driving my all new Santro XL for close to 2 months now…..and im just loooooving it
Im so really happy with my car….it has terrific brakes, the power steering is excellent, manouvering is as smooth as butter and there is loads n loads of space….Im so so glad i chose my Santro over the Wagon R or the Alto LX….and oh! did I mention style ??? 
Yea yea and after all that initial hoo haa over Hyundai service being bad…..well, after a time I actually found them to be more courteous and efficient than I thought they would be….
August 4th, 2006 at 2:44 am
“Hey guys!!! My car Santro erlx XL model is giving 15 kmpl on High way and in city its giving 11kmpl and driving is smooth.(just have completed 300 km)
What can we do to increase mileage??? any tips..
after servicing can we expect more mileage?? perLitre.
August 6th, 2006 at 4:55 am
Hi,
I just sold my Santro Xing XP(Erlx) and brought a Wagon R ( Not LPG) with ABS and Air bags.
I completely agree with Raghunath on the perfrmence of Santro with AC on is not so great as more the no of valve more the Volumetric effciency also it aids in higher torqe in the mid range ( between 40- 100) .
I found Wagon R is more torqee than Santro, Also i am enjoying 100lts more space, and head room and leg room.
I find due to more head room heat due to hot sSun is felt less then Santro.
It has better supension in the back( three stage), if one just goes by looks he would end up with Santro, but I some how did not like the facelifed Santro from it’s old Mickey mouse look.
Another thing which is very enjoyable in Wagon R is even the back seat’s can be tilted as the front seat but it’s not possible in Santro, who wan’t cramped 5 seater I settled to spaceious 4 seater.
My advice to all , if you need a car which is supirior in terms technology go for Wagon R or else to bit infiror teched korean Car.
Trust me even in US , Japaneese Cars are giving hard time to FORD and GM.
But ultimately decision is your’s as it wil be you who going use it.
Sandeep.
August 6th, 2006 at 8:03 am
Hi all,
I went to book the Santro Automatic model (AT) after doing my homework. I detest gears and have always owned AT 2-wheelers. The driving experience is more important for me rather than being in control of the vehicle. The dealer himself suggested that the AT model would give me low mileage of around 9 kms per liter and maintenance would be high. He said it was good only for US roads. I booked the XO but when I came back home and thought about it, I feel I should go for the AT instead. Mileage is not very important for me as I work from home and have to visit office which is a 5-minute drive from my house only once or twice a month. I have read many useful tips here about how to extract more mileage out of the AT by using the gear wisely and using special additives and oil. I cant imagine myself driving a manual vehicle and switching gears every minute and pushing the clutch. But the bias against AT is so big here in India that you feel you are committing a crime by purchasing a AT vehicle. One of my colleagues even told me that AT was only for handicapped people! My thinking is that since I dont have much travelling except on weekends going out with family and that too, only nearby, and since a relaxed driving experience is more important for me, I should cancel my XO booking and book the AT instead. I know if the vehicle has some techinical problem, the bill will be huge, but I am a cautious drivers and user. Also, I dont think manual will give a new driver like me more than 12 kms per liter in the city, but I can squeeze atleast 10 kms per liter from an AT. I dont mind the loss of 2 kms per liter for the trouble am going to save.
So are there any AT supporters here who have managed to squeeze out good mileage from their ATs and have low maintenance problems? Lets hear it for AT!
Indian_driver
August 7th, 2006 at 8:50 am
Hi all.
Seems the AT has few takers or everyone is too soaked in rain to post! Well, I cancelled my Santro XO booking and have booked the Santro AT instead. The funny part was that the dealer kept warning me to go for a manual! I think Hyundai and other companies really ned to start changing the attitude of their employees towards AT vehicles. No wonder AT sales have dropped over last year. While almost 100% Santro AT owners on forums seem completely happy with their cars and do not mind slightly compromising on fuel efficiency for a better driving experience, Hyundai’s dealers themselves are discouraging customers from purchasing ATs. Like Kinetic and Honda kicked manual 2-wheelers out of the market (Bajaj has stoped manufacturing geared scooters), there will be more ATs out there in 5 years time. It just needs to be marketed properly. Once the concept gains acceptance and people understand the enhanced driving experience of an AT, manual will surely become less popular.
I got a cash discount of around Rs. 26000 but this includes the insurance that they would have paid. The interest rate is 12.5%. I have to make a DP of around 78000. The total car cost comes to around 4,23000 excluding the music system which I plan to fit myself, Max security system with reverse horn, dark Garware film RTO approved, floor mats, dicky mat, engine light, streering cover, car freshner, small ganesha idol. I will be asking them to do a teflon and anti rust coating. I want to get spoiler fitted but the original costs around 7500 and the one in the market costs 2500 - a big difference. I think Ill go for the market one as there is no difference between both and its just a decorative piece really. I chose the Real Earth colour. About seat covers, I would like to go for good quality, thick, luxurious jaquard covers whch Ill choose the cloth and get them stiched. I do want to get a safety guard fitted in tteh front but the dealer says it is unnecessary and many say it spoils the look of the car. But I feel its better to be safe than to be sorry. I plan to take delivery on Ganesh Chaturthi. Will keep posting about the performance. Thanks for your great posts here. They have been crucial in my decision making process.
Regards
Indian_driver
August 7th, 2006 at 9:27 am
I am in dilemma whether to buy Wagon R duo, or Wagon R Vxi or Santro XO,XL. Am looking from fuel effeciency and comfort point of view. Could your expertise/experience say something?
August 7th, 2006 at 7:02 pm
I was keen on buying the Santro, but now with the option of the WagonR Duo I am awaiting more reviews on the same.Whats the review on the new entry in the Maruti stable. My primary usage will be about 25 kms on weekdays and around 200 kms on weekends. My weekend getaways include another 4 of my friends, so do u think it is spacious enough. Any idea what the mileage is when the LPG is used? If any1 from Pune please tell me the LPG stations in Pune?
August 8th, 2006 at 3:27 am
Hi
I am planning to buy a New WagonR. Pl advice me whether to go for WR-Vxi or WR-Lxi Duo. I just went through the broacher in website, some of the new futures including Safety futures are not available in Lxi Duo.
Have they taken sufficient safety masseurs in Lxi Deo with regards to LPG. Who much more mileage we can get while using LPG when compared to petrol. Is there any huge difference?
I found the difference in width also Vxi (1490mm) Lxi Duo (1475mm) will it make any sense?
Kindly advice me which one to go for. I am looking at safety and mileage point of view.
Thanks in advance
Ramesh
Bangalore
rameshlak26@yahoo.com
August 8th, 2006 at 11:20 am
Hi ! I bought the Wagon R Lxi a month ago and am enjoying the experience thoroughly! Great suspension, good mileage (12-13 in Mumbai city with AC intermittently used), great space (we’re just a family of 3), adjustable rear seat to make room for luggage on long trips, and above all, JAPANESE engine (not Korean, which is close to CHINESE [yuck!]). Electronic Power Steering is a dream, and I prefer the old look compared to the ‘Duo’ look - the back looks a tad better though. That’s all they do, move the number place from below to the hatchback……..and back. It made the Petra (Sienna) look good, the Zen look good…… Besides, destiny helped me choose, no matter how hard I tried, I never reached the Hyundai Dealer, even though they are pretty close to my house…….something or the other would come up. Contrast this with 3 Maruti dealerships I visited…… and got a whopping discount of Rs. 48000/-!!! (just before Wagon R got a new look) The dealers did try their best to sell me a lemon called “Zen”…….. didn’t have a chance! All aluminium engine is fine compared to cast iron of the Wagon R………but I wouldnt want my bottom scraping the road……more so the potholes.
Wagon R comes definitely recommded!
August 9th, 2006 at 1:59 am
Hi Indian Driver,
Saw your comments on the Santro AT. I have also been inclined for an AT considering the chaotic traffic conditions in most Indian cities. I understand from a friend in Bangalore who has been using the AT for a few years now that he does manage to get 10-11 kmpl in the city.
I too am likely to go for an AT in Hyderbad but the offers I have are in the range of 4.5-4.6 L (on-road) - free insurance, Remote lock, MP3, teflon coating, mats are the freebees. was wondering whether u have included life tax which works out to some 37K in your price?
Thanks
regards
Kumar
August 9th, 2006 at 4:39 am
WR Duo seems to be 60 kg heavier than the normal WR. Even though MUL is saying 10% more fuel efficiency. i wonder !!!
I am planning to take WR-D, but the dealers in Bangalore are saying 10 weeks delivery time (Sagar and Mandovi). But in these 10 weeks, new Zen is going to be launched and also the 2nd generation 1.3 cc multi diesel engine of Fiat is going to be ready to go in Swift, Indica and Palio.
Mileage/fuel consumption is the key words for me (and quite a lot of people) to purchase a vehicle. The step MUL has taken to make a passenger car with LPG is a very appreciating. I reckon Hyundai shall also take considerable step.
In the blog some people have put their views very finely about the +’s and -’s of WR and Santro.
Both are at par. WR is good on high speed and for fuel efficiency. WR’s blind spot because of front ‘A’ channel, wonder people knew this. Excellent vehicle know how and service network
Santro is good for within city driving.
August 9th, 2006 at 10:49 am
Hey man,
I got a new wagon r duo and can you believe , it is giving me 50 KMPL.
What a fuel saving car is this !
I am very much delighted with WAGON R DUO.
Thanks Maruti.
August 9th, 2006 at 11:09 am
Mr. Indian Driver You have choosen the right car Santro AT. I assure you you are going to get 10+ km/lit. Most of the people in india thought that the AT cars for handicapped peoples only.The main thing is comfort.
August 9th, 2006 at 11:15 am
Suzuki is only known for making small cars.Whereas hyundai is worldwide popular in making all types of cars.Actually Hyundai is not only a car maker company.It’s including 12 companies.They are largest ship aking company in the world.So get out of that korean japenese thoughts.
August 10th, 2006 at 5:20 am
Ram_Blore….go for Wagon R Vxi…not sure about the Duo though…but i guess there are very few LPG stations here in Blore…and if you want to wait for 3-4 months…then only you can actually make the correct decision on what you buy, because the Duo review is still not out in the market.How much extral mileage it gives and what r the other benefits…but Lxi u dont have all the safety features and other features u get in Vxi…why do u want to miss on them with an extral 2-3 kms extra mileage…I guess u wont drive 200 kms every week…is that so ?
Indian_driver….congrats on ur new car…though i dont know about ur decision …as it is totally urs….u have only asked questions and answered them urself only….that leaves us with no other choice
enjoy riding AT on Indian Roads and traffic….keep us updated on the maintenance part pls.
August 10th, 2006 at 6:01 am
Hi!
Have you noticed those little OVAL quality control stickers on the wind shield of the Santro (right bottom corner).
It so happens that my car came with little ROUND quality control stickers!!
I ahve looked at many cars but none seem to have ROUND stickers (only OVAL)!!
Any ideas why the difference?
August 10th, 2006 at 12:28 pm
Hi all,
Kumar, the price includes insurance of around 15K and registration charges of around 30K. I dont think it cludes life time tax. I will have to pay it every year.
Ajay,
Thanks for your encouraging comments. I think we Indians really do need to get rid of mindsets like “automatic gears are for the west and handicapped people” or “Korean companies are inferior to Japanese companies”. All have their pros and cons. American company IBM sold its PC division to Lenovo of China. Does that mean IBM PCs are now cheap junk? Many people dont’ realize that the big Japanese and American companies actually dont manufacture their products in their own countries. Suzuki may be sourcing quite a number of components from Korea or Thailand. You cant compete with the Koreans by manufacturing everything in Japan which would make them too highly priced as the cost of labour in Japan is much much higher. So does that make Suzuki a cheap Korean company? I recently purchased a 1 ton AC from the leading US AC company Carrier. Williams Carrier invented the AC actually. Their 1 ton AC is manufactured in the Philiphines. I doubt whether Carrier would outsource to a developing nation if that country couldnt meet its quality standards. So ultimately, its all about a company and not from where the company comes from. Borders just dont count aymore.
Rajiban,
Ha! That was funny, yeah I did answer all my own questions I suppose. Probably trying to convince myself I tok the right decision because everyone else was telling me I was wrong. Ill definetly keep you posted on teh Santro AT’s performance, especially average and maintenance.
Regards to all
Indian_driver
August 11th, 2006 at 1:34 am
Hi All! I m thorougly confused b/w Wagon R and Santro erlx. My driving is very limited. its only for passion that i want to buy car on my own. my hubby is 6′1” so has to go in for tall car. what i have noticed is that when u pull the driver seat back the leg space for the person sitting behind is very less in Santro. no idea about WR. suggest which car to go in for. I will be buying it within 2 months time
Manisha
August 12th, 2006 at 3:01 am
Thanks Indian Driver for your response.
In some states such as AP and TN one doesn’t have an option to pay the road tax on an annual basis. Life tax actually is quite a rip-off because if one moves from one state to another one has to pay the tax again in the new state and try and recover the balance due to you from your earlier state of residence.
I too think that AT is under-appreciated in India. With running costs being the prime driver in making a purchase decision, AT cars invariably are not on most people’s radar. The other issue that crops up is the higher maintenance cost of an AT. I suspect this too is an India problem resulting from poor infrastructure that the cars have to put up with (if only they made better use of the life tax one paid when acquiring the car !!). Despite these I will also likely go for the AT. At some point in time when volumes go up maybe it will help drive down costs.
On the issue of Korean vs Japanese, it might be worth remembering that Samsung, a very Korean company, is a case study at Harvard for being one of the most innovative companies in recent times. Samsung’s growth over the past decade has been amazing. Hyundai has been competing in the extremely competitive US markets for well over a decade. I presume it has honed its AT version well over the years (obviously Santro’s 4 speed AT would not compare well with either the City or the Civic’s 5 speed variants but for a small car it serves the purpose). I have realized from talking to some people who have dissuaded me from going for an AT, that its their experience with the Zen AT’s low fuel efficiency (it seems it gave 6-7 kmpl) that they had a mental block against AT. I think the Zen had a 3 speed AT. I am sure as demand increases, we will likely see better AT vehicles in India. Till then, in the B segment, cheers to the Santro
August 14th, 2006 at 4:28 am
Great posts by Indian Driver and Kumar about Auto X’mission cars. Do you or anybody know why would it cost more to maintain AT car? BTW, Indian_Driver, did that dealer show you a side-by-side comparison of Santro AT & MT maintenance cost?
I just hope that, in urban/metro areas of our country people will soon realize driving comfort of Auto X’mission cars. Here in this country, Life is too complicated already why make DRIVING part of it.
Regards,
Manoj
August 15th, 2006 at 3:15 am
I would like to go for Santro xing XO. I wish to know about the Music system and speaker configuration most preferable for this model. Please advise. JBL, Sony Xplod or Pioneer which will you select as an expert in this area
August 16th, 2006 at 3:34 am
Hi Mr.Rajiban,
Thanks for your precious comment; I do accept it since WR-D is the 1st in its class coming up with Duo fuel system. We have to wait and see its efficiency. Of course dealers in Bangalore are saying the delivery time will be minimum 50-60 days for WR-Duo..
Hello Mr. Raj Khatri
Are u really sure that your WagonR Duo gives 50 KMPL? If so…by oversight Maruti should have fitted HeroHonda Splendor engine to your Car…any way enjoy…
Regards
Ramesh
August 17th, 2006 at 3:31 am
Can any one suggest a compatible audio system and speaker for santro.
I prefer pioneer system. Please help me in deciding a good combination of system and speakers( would be thankful if you mention with model numbers ) If you can guide me through Pioneer sysytem +pioneer speaker and pioneer system with some other company speaker it would be fine.
Thanks in advance
August 17th, 2006 at 6:04 am
Hi Vineet,
Recently i came to know from a Maruti dealer that there are only four LPG stations in Pune, 1 in Nagar Road, 1 in Hinjewadi and don’t know about the other two.
August 17th, 2006 at 6:33 am
Hi All,
Got a news that Santro is phasing out its hit model Santo Xing eRLX and is coming up with a new model DUO just like Wagon R by this year end…Earlier Santro phased out its Tall Boy Model Santro Zip Drive when it was the top selling model around 5- 6 yrs ago.Good for us….let the car giants fight amoung themselves to capture the market and we get good options to buy:-)
August 17th, 2006 at 6:46 am
Hi Suniljith ,
Go for Sony XPlod…crystal clear sound…it will cost u around 15k approx with 4 speakers …but if u want r looking out for a budget and want to stick to 10k…go for a mix n match with Pioneer System and Sony speakers….options are urs now
August 17th, 2006 at 8:29 am
Hi All,
I am 6′2″ and planning to buy a new car. My budget matches the Santro XO and Wagon R (New) VXi.
Hyundai is giving a free MP3 player with the XO, which Maruti is not as the new model has recently been launched. However, the features in WagonR (New) are more compared to the XO like tachometer, OVRM etc.
A few questions:
I am not concerned with the looks, my only concerns are:
- Engine quality and long engine life
- Safety features
- Seating 3 at the back
They claim the new WagonR is a 5-seater, can it accommodate 3 in the rear seat?
Do you think it is worth to pay the extra money for a music system and buy the WR - keeping in mind the safety features?
Some say, no problems occur in the Santro up to 100,000KMs whereas Maruti/Suzuki start having problems after 60,000-75,000KMs.
I am totally confused…please assist.
Thanks,
HD
August 17th, 2006 at 8:54 am
Hi
I am planning to buy a Santro xing XL model either from delhi or haryana.
can you please tell me if it is suitable for city driving and sometimes longdrive (not all the times)?
Is there any scheme on this model in the NCR?
plz help!
Thanks
August 17th, 2006 at 9:54 am
Manoj,
I didnt get any comparison from the dealer though he said that the maintenance would be more, like for instance more frequent change of oil filter. But one other used car dealer who is a freind of mine assured me that the AT would make a hole in my pocket only if I screwed up very badly and the gear box needed repairs because it is an imported one. The rest is the same about AT and manual. There is no difference except for the gear box.
Honestly, I need to keep one foot on the brake if I have to feel safe driving. I cant use one leg for stepping on the clutch as well as the brake. I am learning driving on a manual Santro and I am quite comfortable with changing gears now, but my whole driving changes when I tell my instructor to manage the clutch and the gears. With one foot on the brake and teh other on the accelerator, I find I can concentrate only on driving and nothing else and drive like a pro. With the manual shifting, I am uneasy, hesitate to step on the gas and become over cautious. It just kills the joy of driving for me.
I just came back from the dealer after making the final payment. Got a car cover thrown in as well. Had a spoiler fitted, opted for teflon and anti rust coating, side window protector, did not go for body colour bumpers. I know body colour bumpers look good but I felt Rs. 6000 was a bit too much. I went for tubeless tyres which Hyundai gives for Rs 4500 for 5 tyres in exchange for the new tyres. Now no more worrying about air pressure and getting a puncture on the highway with your family in the car.
Does anyone know if tubeles tyres have any side effects like lower average or handling issues? I can still tell him to fit the standard tyres as delivery is more than a week away.
Thanks all
indian_driver
August 17th, 2006 at 10:20 am
Hi all,
I found this encouraging piece on tubeless tyres. Seems shelling out extra money for them might ust be worth it:
“Radial tyres already offer considerable protection from punctures compared to the earlier bias-ply tyres. Tubeless tyres are a step further in terms of ride comfort and protection from punctures. As tubeless tyres are bereft of a tube, loss of air from the tyres in the event of a puncture is not as sudden as could be the case in a radial tyre and tube combo. Tubeless tyres also do not suffer from the inherent weakness or sensitivity that a tube’s valve comes with. In most cases, you will be able to drive down to the nearest service station or mechanic to swap the tyre, if you detect a puncture in a tubeless tyre.
In addition to this advantage, tubeless tyres also offer other benefits such as quicker steering response, better lateral stability, improved cornering ability, better road grip and speed, and improves the looks of the car as a whole. The ride becomes softer, quieter and more comfortable. Shocks and vibrations are absorbed at the tyre level. The tyre does not heat up. Tubeless tyres may improve the fuel average of your car. They have a rounder profile and offer less rolling resistance. A tubeless tyre is easier to repair than a tube. Special kits allow the driver to repair the tyre almost painlessly.
Happy driving!
indian_driver
August 18th, 2006 at 8:18 am
Hi all,
I am going to buy my first car. I got the budget of 3-4 lacs. two cars Wagon R and santro are in my mind but i am not able to decide.My problem have increased with the launch of Wagon R DUO. My priorities are safty,fuel efficiency and confort. I request experienced guys to suggest
August 19th, 2006 at 3:46 am
Hi Folks
Just this afternoon I completed the paper work at Advaith Hyundai to buy a santro xing ERLX XL.The on road price comes to Rs.3.97.
I did a bit of bargaining and got them to write it on the quotation all that they have promised.
They have promised to give me
1.Body Color bumpers
2.Blaupunkt CD/Mp3 player (they havent given any commitment on the speakers).
3.Free Teflon Coating
4.Free Doormats
5.Free Perfume
6.Free Centralised locking system.
7.Free Parachute Car Cover
I did take a print out of the reviews in cityblogger,mouthshut.com about Advaith Hyundai and told them that I need a good car .
If they fail to deliver a good product then 10 of my friends who intend to buy santros in the next fortnight will chose trident hyundai.
August 23rd, 2006 at 2:33 am
Hi
I am planning to buy a New WagonR on Diwali. There would any discount on diwali. But Dealer is saying for 45 days booking. If i register now then will i get any discount on diwali. Pl advice me whether to go for WR-Vxi or WR-Lxi Duo. I just went through the broacher in website, some of the new futures including Safety futures are not available in Lxi Duo.
Have they taken sufficient safety masseurs in Lxi Deo with regards to LPG. Who much more mileage we can get while using LPG when compared to petrol. Is there any huge difference?
I found the difference in width also Vxi (1490mm) Lxi Duo (1475mm) will it make any sense?
Kindly advice me which one to go for. I am looking at safety and mileage point of view.
Anyone has any idea about the specs, prices etc?
Thanks in advance
Qasim
New Delhi
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:00 am
Hi,
i am planning to buy a Santro Xing XL(ABS) from Kerala. Can anyone tell what could be the best deal i can get in Kerala? i called up MGF Hyundai in Cochin and tey qutoed 3.8 for XL ABS - i am bit surprised - i thought it will cost around 4 lakhs. Anyway they are giving free insurance - i guess that is the reason why it came down to 3.8. Any thoughts?
August 24th, 2006 at 3:39 am
Hi guys
First time i am buying a car for own use and not regular usage . i booked wagon -r Duo . but peoples who r running LpG cars like maruti omni they given come negative feedback on cars which r running with LPG. now i am totally confused which one i have to buy?I am requesting an Wagan-r Duo owners Kindly sugest me how is the rvehicale performence and it is relly differ from other vehicle like Santro xo ?
Reagrds
Kiran
August 24th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
hello experts,
having read all the reviews for three hours in this site, and also every other site available i am still confused, which one to buy, well i can wait for the reviews for the wagon r duo to come, i want a perfect car(everybody thinks they will buy the best car) so i also dont want to make a mistake!!!!!! good mileage, good comfort and superior car it should be, would normally drive 20 KM/DAY ……80 KM on weknds. no frequent long journeys for me, the car should be a quality car(crux of the matter) i personally have not driven either of the two cars, i have a matiz 2000.planning to sell it for a new one. please give the final verdict. i am not a person who follows the crowd(santro i suspect is sold by the BHED CHAAL) I DONT BELIEVE IN BHED CHAAL.
thanks to all who will reply for me
saurabh
August 27th, 2006 at 6:56 am
Hi all,
Remember me? Well, I took delivery of my Santro AT today and I must say I found the vehicle an exhilirating experience. The gears change quickly after you hit 35kph. Theres a slightest delay in the pick up when you press the acclerator but thats negligible. Speed wise the vehicle was steady as rock at 60. I didnt go higher because its new. Manoeuvring the car, tight turns and passing through small spaces is a breeze. The brakes are feather touch. The vibrations are minimal even on these bad roads - excellent suspension! They have given a extra button for Overdrive which you can press if the vehicle feels sluggish. Space inside is a lot. 4 adults and 4 kids fitted comfortably. The service at the Hyundai showroom was beyond par. Ill watch the average and let you know soon.
Drive safely
Indian_driver
August 27th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
Hi Saurabh,
After reading your writeup it seems you r looking for a quality car which will be comfortable and will be giving you good mileage and which u will drive 300 + Kms a week…ami I right ?…If looks are not ur criteria for choosing ur car then i can suggest Wagon R Due….very good car…and Duo will give u much more than a normal car…Mileage + Comfort of a 5 Seater Car….Now the choice is ur ?
Hey Indian Driver,
Congrats man…finally ur dream of buying an AT car has come true…BTW 8 people in Santro AT…I hope the 4 kids r not infants ?Anyway Happy and Safe Driving Friend.
Cheers…
August 28th, 2006 at 6:07 am
Hi All
I had an idea of buying WagonR Vxi, finally i went for a Swift Vxi since there was only 50k price difference in Bangalore.
Can someone comment on it whether my decision is correct or wrong.
Ramesh
August 28th, 2006 at 8:24 am
Hi Indian Driver,
Congrats on choosing the Santro AT.I will assure you this car never dissappoint you.
August 29th, 2006 at 2:13 am
I had thought to buy Wagon R Duo just for fuel effeciency, but the waiting period is too long almost 2 months and you cannot have a test drive of the Duo, the model is only for the display purpose.
So whatever the company says we cannot get the actual picture till the time it hits on the road.
I think its better to wait for some time to check the reviews of the Duo, since its a trial period for the model once cannot predict its performance.
However, I feel more comfortable in Santro Xing then in Wagon R, also the XO has all 4 power windows and other good features compared to its rival, yes and there is lot more of freebies offer from the dealer one can get on Santro.
Anyhow I had dropped Wagon R from the list, now the option for me is Santro XO or Swift Vxi.
Can any swift owner tell me about the mileage they are getting.
Yogmania
August 29th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
saurabh says
yaar no replies for my final question still, kindly reply, question is above
thanks
saurabh
August 30th, 2006 at 7:29 am
Hi,
I am planning to take a car with a budget of around 4.5 Lacks. My choice is for Getz or Wagon R DUO. Can anyone suggest me which will be better to opt for keeping mileage and maintenance cost in mind ?
Thanks and Regards
Chitta Ranjan Nayak
August 31st, 2006 at 12:37 am
Hi,
First time I am buying a car and have very less experience in driving. I have zeroed in four models.
1.SWIFT VXI
2.Wagon-R VXI
3.SANTRO
4.GETZ
Mainly I require the following information before deciding between Wagon R and Santro.
1. The fuel efficiency. Eventhough its a difference of 1km also, it matters.
2. The maintenance cost. which one will be better choice?
3. I am looking for seating capacity of 5 people. which one will be spacious? Also for proper fitting of speakers which one will be good choice?
Can anyone will help me for the above. Also Can anyone tell that any similar kind of blog is available for SWIFT and GETZ.
Thanks,
Arogyaraj
August 31st, 2006 at 8:45 am
I am planning to take a new wagonr duo but i want to know about is RTO
approval in mumbai from TC
September 1st, 2006 at 1:27 pm
thanks to RAJIBAN, for replying to me, now i have made up my mind to buy a wagonR DUO, but will still wait for some more reviews to come for DUO, otherwise i will buy wagon R LXI.
THANKS ONCE AGAIN,
WILL POST MY FEEDBACK WHEN I BUY IT AND HAVE DRIVEN IT FOR A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME,
HAPPY DRIVING
September 3rd, 2006 at 7:06 am
Dear all,
I did finally buy the Santro AT. The drive is expectedly very comfortable. Sorry Manoj, u had a query on the cost of maintenance between the auto and the manual shift. Not too sure how expensive it is when compared to the manual one but as posted by Indian_Driver, I presume the major cost would arise from any damages to the gear box, which probably isn’t easy to rectify in a piece-meal fashion. Driving carefully and avoiding areas that resemble the lunar landscape should help. Congrats Indian_driver on your AT. Hopefully time will tell us that it is a good choice.
I found the service from the Hyundai dealer (Talwar, Hyderabad) to be exceptionally good with the vehicle delivered before I had anticipated it. The dealer actually placed the order even before my employer had processed the PO. As a result I got delivery of the vehicle within hours after his receiving the PO and atleast 10 days before I had expected it. All accessories promised were fitted without any further need for discussion.
Prakash, thanks this blog has been very helpful and some great posts by quite a few people.
Cheers
September 4th, 2006 at 3:13 pm
Hi..Chitta Ranjan Nayak :
If your budget is 4.5 lacs then I guess its better to buy Wagon R -Vxi, because i feel Getz will overshoot ur budget ,since the On-Road price after road tax and insurance will cross ur budget.Wagon R Duo or Wagon R -Vxi will be withen 4.30 lacs inclusive all.
Thanks
September 4th, 2006 at 11:22 pm
Hey all, I was in the process of deciding the car between WR and Xing. Surprisingly, WR Duo has no Guarantee given by the show room or the company. What a surprise? Itseems that company is not sure whether the new duo engine works effectively or not :o) How can you risk taking this new model?
September 5th, 2006 at 6:22 am
Hi All,
I am also planning to buy WagonR Duo but still waiting for the reviews like saurabh.
I am confused between these two models :
- WagonR lxi
- WagonR lxi Duo
So please provide some review on WagonR Duo from your experiences.
September 5th, 2006 at 11:12 pm
Hi all
will you post your reviews about servicing of WR and SANTRO both.
I maen after how much KiloMeters you need to service your car.
and how much Rs. you spend for service.
Plz send your experience.. Both WR and SANTRO OWNER……………
September 6th, 2006 at 12:07 am
Wagon R LXI Duo has 2 yrs warranty which is clear and loud in the advertisement.
September 6th, 2006 at 2:37 am
what is the payment period for hyundai santro and are there any discounts and allowance pricing?
September 6th, 2006 at 8:28 pm
MARUTI WAGON R DUO is infact given guarantee and the performance is just fabulous. I am sure we’ll reach a point where cars like DUO will get more popular!!
September 8th, 2006 at 11:44 am
Hi all,
Same question: Wagor Vxi/Wagonr LXI/Wagonor LXI DUO
One review i read on net of DUO said the DUO thign works seemlessely and engine works great in both modes..But that is exactly 1 review i have found so far.. Also Vxi has broader tyres than LXi, is this still correct ?
September 10th, 2006 at 1:55 am
Hi All….
Remember guys!!! Never judge a car performance as soon as its launched in the market.. So better wait for atleat 6 months to decide upon the same.. kk tc
September 12th, 2006 at 2:29 am
Maruti wagon r duo’s performance has been satisfactory on road. Some people may want to wait and watch but i am convinced about the performance
September 12th, 2006 at 5:01 am
Hi Prakash,
I’m still confused bet’n Santro XL, WagonR LXi(Petrol) and Indica XETA.
My budget is 3.6L to 3.7L. My requirement is that the car should be spacious to carry luggage, can accomodate 4-5 persons comfortably, good milage and good power, low cost of maintenance.
I will be driving 20-22 Km per day on weekdays and weekends about 50 Km per day.
I’m not looking for resale value but car should not give me trouble in long run.
Pl advice which car will be suitable for me ?
Thanx
September 12th, 2006 at 10:39 am
hi all…
discussion till now has been quite insightful. Can any one help me find the comparison between total cost of ownership of Santro and Wagon R. I want to know what shall be the cost of maintenance, parts, accessories and running between these two cars if i have them for 3 years, 5 years and run same number of kilometers. I checked at many auto portals but could not find this info, http://www.carwale.com gives very comprehensive comparison but could not answer this query. …cheers!!
September 12th, 2006 at 11:42 pm
Hi,
I am little bit confused either i should go for WagnoR LXI or WagnoR Duo LXI.. as no reviews are available …if any one own this car than please tell me about the engine performance…and milege…
Pl advice me which is better..?
Jignesh Patel
jignesh_481@yahoo.com
September 13th, 2006 at 5:27 am
Hey Santro folks ,
I own Santro XL , can somebody tell me if I m going on 80 - 90 km/h
( or maybe higher)
and i take a sudden sharp turn , would Santro surrvive or it would do summersault.! coz big flat cars like Honda’s City & even Esteem & Gets would survive that turn ……being Santro a tall car ….. wat d u think wld happen ….has anybody experienced such turns …pls revert
Thanks & Regards
Rick
September 16th, 2006 at 6:06 am
Dear Rick,
I have taken curves at about 80-95 kms safely in Santro on National highways. I am sure no car will survive U turn at that speed. What do you mean by sharp turn. The high way turns are safe to take even at 100 + kms /hr. speed.
In any case pl. do not try such things even for curiosity. It is safe to keep foot on break pedal while negotiating sharp turns,because you can still control the car in case if you feel pushed to the door or other side at turns at high speed.
Regards.
September 18th, 2006 at 3:59 am
Hi All,
I’m still confused bet’n Santro XL, WagonR LXi(Petrol) and Indica XETA.
My budget is 3.6L to 3.7L. My requirement is that the car should be spacious to carry luggage, can accomodate 4-5 persons comfortably, good milage and good power, low cost of maintenance.
I will be driving 20-22 Km per day on weekdays and weekends(sat & sun) about 30 Km per day.
I’m not looking for resale value but car should not give me trouble in long run.
Pl advice which car will be suitable for me ?
Thanx
September 18th, 2006 at 7:02 am
Hi guys,
I am just about to buy a new Wagon R with ABS and airbag variant. The loan is from HDFC and they are not giving any discounts whatsoever. Also, the dealer is giving just free life insurance plus normal accessories such as mats only. Are there any nice dealers with good offers in Bangalore?
Also, need to know one thing. At the time of booking the dealer told me that the delievery time will be 2-3 weeks and thats what he wrote on the receipt when i gave them advance. Now even after 4 weeks , he is telling it will take a week more…. can something be done about this…can this issue be raised and help taken from any consumer forum…need your advice and opinions
rgds
September 18th, 2006 at 10:09 am
I am told the ECM on my Hyundai Santro has gone kaput (engine runs very rough and dies at speeds above 25kph). The cost of a new one is about Rs25,000. Can you verify this and also comment on if it is advisable t use a refurbished/repaired one for say 50% of the price. Also, do new ECM’s have any free replacement warranty?? Thanks for your help
September 20th, 2006 at 5:07 am
hi folks ,
alot is being said about santro being a korean car and wagon R being japanese i ould remind people of the time when japanese products were being looked down , anyway santro is the ultimate car in this category , i own a santro xo eRLX it gives me 16kpl with AC in city and 20 on highways good luck and happy SANTROING to santro owners
September 20th, 2006 at 6:35 am
Hai,
I am planning to buy santro Xing XO model with ABS.The dealer has made an offer for 4,29,000 onroad price with all accesories like
MP3 player,Car cover,seat covers,mats,remote lock and few other things.
IS this a reasonable deal…
September 20th, 2006 at 7:28 am
Hyundai is in the top 3 internationally in terms of quality. The only brands that are ahead of it are Porsche and Lexus. Suzuki is nowhere near. WagonR is a flimsy vehicle and the looks are far from contemporary. Just because it has a Japanese engine, it does not make sense to buy that car especially when Hyundi gives better value for money, comfort and looks in its Santro!!
September 21st, 2006 at 12:25 am
Ricky Says:
September 18th, 2006 at 7:02 am
Hi guys,
I am just about to buy a new Wagon R with ABS and airbag variant. The loan is from HDFC and they are not giving any discounts whatsoever. Also, the dealer is giving just free life insurance plus normal accessories such as mats only. Are there any nice dealers with good offers in Bangalore?
Also, need to know one thing. At the time of booking the dealer told me that the delievery time will be 2-3 weeks and thats what he wrote on the receipt when i gave them advance. Now even after 4 weeks , he is telling it will take a week more…. can something be done about this…can this issue be raised and help taken from any consumer forum…need your advice and opinions
rgds
HI GUYS, CAN SOMEONE HELP TO ANSWER MY QUERIES !!!!!!!!!!! THANKS IN ADVANCE
September 21st, 2006 at 7:23 am
Hi ,
I am trying to decide whether to buy a Santro /Swift or a Wagon R.
My focus is affordability. I really need the car with the best mileage and city driving.
Does a petrol car give better mileage than a diesel car and which one is low on maintenance?
The other thing I cannot compromise on is comfort..
I have a back problem and I really need comfortable seating.
Please help.
Regards
Annette
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:19 am
Indian Driver, Kumar,
and other Guys who bought the AT version. Could you please tell me the price you paid for AT. We family is based in Coimbatore and I spoke to the Chandra Hyundai. They said they will waive the insurance(15K) but the on road price of car is 464,500(per hyundai website).
The accessories quoted are
Music system Pioneer model:2870 Rs. 8500
Rear spoiler: Rs.6800
Mudflap,rubber,bootmap: 1000
teflon dupoint: 2800
Sun film: 1800
Do you think it is reasonable price or are we being overcharged? Any input from any one else (who bought any santro manual as well) regarding the accessory pricing.
Thanks a lot in advance for any tips.
Hari
September 24th, 2006 at 5:05 am
Sorry guys, I have been away for a long time cause I have been enjoying my Santro AT! Hari, I think you are being overcharged. I paid a total of 4,25000 for my Santro AT which inlcuded the processing fees for my loan, RTO registration charges, AC, body colour bumpers, spoiler, side moulding, window sun protector, teflon coating, antirust coating and tubeless tires. The dealer gave me floor mats, dicky mats, mud flaps, Garware sun control film, free life insurance, car air freshner, car cover, remote control security system, and reverse horn. I spent another 15,000 to pay the RTO for a special number and 12,000 for washable leather covers and an Sony Xplod music system with 4 speakers - 2 in front and 2 oval speakers fitted in a tray in the back. You should look at some other dealer.
Meanwhile the vehicle is running smoothly. I keep the AC on most of the time and I am getting an average of 7kmpl. I calculated this as I have put petrol of Rs 2500 till now after the dealer gave me around 4-5 litres free and the vehicle has completed 350 kms until now. The first servicing is due in November or 1200 kms whichever is earlier and should go to 9-10kmpl after that.
September 25th, 2006 at 9:35 am
Hi friends!
Anyone looking for LIFE/Motor Insurance in Delhi may contact AK GUPTA 9891577263 for outstanding service. You can also check our website - http://www.ashimkgupta.tk
I am also planning to buy a car viz. SANTRO
I want comfort.
September 25th, 2006 at 9:47 am
Hi,
I booked a santro xing xo for 4.06 on road with below items
the dealer has given the discount of insurance amount, my company cash discount of 4000/-, registration with number plate worth 2000/-
Music system Pioneer model:4 speakers,sunfilm,teflon coating,car cover, remote control Locing system,reverse horn,floor mats, dicky mats, mud flaps…
Is the price okay with all these accessories…
I am planning for a spoiler… do i need any other basic accessories
Cheers,
Neelima
September 25th, 2006 at 11:13 am
Hari,
I paid 4.56 L on road for the Santro AT in AP – this includes about Rs. 38,000 as Life Tax which is mandatory in this state – can’t be paid annually. I think TN also follows the policy of mandatory life tax – u need to check on this.
I got free insurance, 4K cash discount, remote central locking, Teflon coating, sun film, a sony xplod music system with 4 speakers, seat covers, mats as free-bees.
September 27th, 2006 at 3:09 am
I am planning to buy Santro XL. On road price is 3.85 with accesories(Pioneer music system, remote locking, seat cover, teflon and anti rust coating, mats, mud flaps and sunfilm). Let me know if there is ne other better deal.
September 28th, 2006 at 2:12 pm
Planning to buy EURO III Santro AT Metallic in Hyderabad. Lakshmi Motors is offering for 4.5 lakhs on road which includes insurance, registration, MP3 player and the regular pads and stuff. Can you proud owners of Santro AT disclose the dealer name, on-road price and including any free options offered.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:15 am
Hi Ranganath,
Can you tell me from which dealer you got this quotation…?
Prakash,
I am from Pune, Maharashtra. receintly I booked Santro XO. The last offer I received from dealer is 4.09. In which he has included, free car insurance, corporate insurance and floor mats. for every other accessory I need to pay from my pockets. After gowing through the information on this page, the offer is not honest. Can you help me in getting right offer.
Please reply.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:06 am
Hi,
Very useful reviews. We are planning to bu an automatic transmission car. Not sure which one to choose, WagonR AX or Santro Xing AT ????
Could somebody please give us some input on this? Which one is better. As I understand, Santro ATis 4 speed and WagonR AX id 3 speed. Does this matter too much?
Thanks,
Waiting for some good reviews…
September 30th, 2006 at 12:22 am
Hey guys!!! Just two weeks back i got Santro ErlX XL . Purposly i went to testt milage on high way and driven for 200Km one way. Do you belive me or not It gave me 22km/l with intermetent AC usage. But as per dealer we can not expect milage till 1st or 2nd service gets over. but This milage performance is Very very excelent . In the city area it is giving me 13-14 kM with AC.
other than milage power stearing ,and breaking system, and clutch foot rest,finishing of dash board, leg space in driver seat fine.
October 4th, 2006 at 3:12 am
Hi,
I want to buy SANTRO XL. Can u tell me the good price for me.
October 4th, 2006 at 11:53 am
i want to buy a santro-XL pls tell me the best buy price and the dealer offering the best price in hyderabad.
October 4th, 2006 at 12:17 pm
MARUTI WAGON R DUO’s peformance has been very satisfactory so far. I bought it for my father. He says that transition between LPG and petrol model is just seemless. He says, it’s quite smooth.
Overall he is quite content, we are yet to measure the mileage details though.
October 6th, 2006 at 7:53 am
Dear Prakash,
I seek an advice from you regarding buying a car.
My budget was originally 2 - 2.5 Lac
I understand that with this budget I can only get a 800. I already own a Maruti 800. So I DO NOT want to buy another 800.
So I stretched by budget to 3 Lac, although a little painfully.
My requirements are as follows:
1. The car should have ample space
2. Preferably a new car
3. A dependable car that can give satisfaction
4. I wish the car to be responsive
Now I have to pick from the following options. Kindly advise which option should I take:
1. TATA Indica XETA (the petrol version of Indica) which is pegged at 3.04 (Ex-showroom Delhi). This car has power steering as well as AC. The car has good interiors and a 1400cc engine and has plenty of space. It is a robust built car with good steel.
2. Maruti Alto - though it gives peace of find being a Maruti product it does not have much space. Its only 800 cc which gives a feel of Maruti 800.
3. The second-hand Wagon R or Santro
I understand that if put in another 50k I can buy a new Wagon R but I have already stretched to 3 Lacs from 2 - 2.5 Lacs which means I am unable to stretch further.
The Indica XETA appeals to me but the problem is that I have not seen more than 1-2 Indica XETAs on the road ever since I test drove it. All the Indicas on road are Diesel.
Kindly advise as to what is your opinion about the Indica XETA and what option should I choose amongst the above given options and why should I choose this option.
I would really appreciate a prompt reply.
Thanks
Harsh
October 6th, 2006 at 7:57 am
Hey Guys,
I would really appreciate if you advise me on my above dilemma. I want to buy a car ASAP but I am extremely confused. So please help me out. I am sure Prakash has an answer to my above query. But you guys also suggest your opinion.
October 6th, 2006 at 2:28 pm
hey buddies plz reply on my email ID ASAP
I am not able to decide whether i should go for a upper end model for Santro or Duo Wagon R LXI
please give me your valuable reviews on them considering all the factors for a middle class family car
October 7th, 2006 at 8:47 pm
hi..
i am still confused whether to go for santro xing erlx or the new maruti wagon R..
i require a small comfortable car and drive just arnd 100 km a week
CAN U SUGGEST ME ONE??
October 8th, 2006 at 11:26 pm
Hi,
My query is the same as Legeo Varghese. After doing a good amount of research I have shortlisted Santro and Wagon R Duo.
Which car one should go for keeping in mind fuel consumption, performance, space, price & securtiy.
If Prakash Advani or anyone can suggest it will be of great help.
Thanks
Ashish
October 9th, 2006 at 1:35 am
Dear Mr. Harsh,
Your budget is around or below 3 lacs.So I am you i will go for alto. Because it have more spce than Maruti 800 and its ground clearance is better than Zen.Its trustworthy, better mileage than Indica Xeta,Better AC. Maruti 800cc= 35 bhp & Alto 800=45 bhp. 10 bhp differnce is very much.I own Santro and I am very happy with it.If YOU HAVE MORE BUDGET GO FOR SANTRO.Otherwise go for Alto.
October 10th, 2006 at 6:54 am
Hi
I own Santro Zing XP. I am using this car from past 3 years and I am glad to say that I have not faced any problem at all as on today.
I can say with confidence that Santro is the stable, trouble free car and the best car in this segment compared to others.
Once I had driven this vehicle at a top speed of 160 km/h comfortably on pune-mumbai express highway but I did’nt experience any kind of shakings.
Santro gives a mileage of 11 to 11.5 Km/Litre(with A/C) in the City Limits and 13-14 Km/Litre(with A/C) on highways.
When I booked my santro in 2003 I never explored much about cars and I purchased Santro just because the looks were great but now I am realising that my choice was correct!!!!!!
If anybody is in a dilemma of buying Wagon R or Santro , go for Santro
All the best
Srinivasa
October 11th, 2006 at 6:12 am
Hi Friends,
It was very difficult to choose between Santro and WagonR, but i found WagonR more value for money hatchback.
I booked the WagonR (LXi petrol) about 1 week ago of Dusshera and got the car in Dusshera.
i liked the new wagonR looks. It is like mini SUV, with roofrails it looks superub. When ever u enter into car it give u a feel of lot of space than Santro. It is having more boot space then Santro also rear seat is cmpletely foldable.
After a lot of study i saw that technology used in WagonR is more advanced than Santro e.g
(1) WagonR engine is more compact and small but produces the same power as Santro
(2) Wagon R engine is having 4 cylinder 16 valves, which is 12 in Santro. More valves are always good for engines life.
(3) Wagon R have Electronic Power Steering but Santro have old hydrolic PS.
(4) Wagon R is equipped with 32 bit on board microprocessor, since 32 bit processor are having more speed than 16 bit therefore it’s MPFI section is very efficient. Also many parts of the vehicle is microprocessor controlled.
Other than that i found more boot and leg space in WagonR than Snatro.
I found it’s drive extremely smooth. Pickup is too good.
Also during Dusshera i got a total discount of abt Rs 37000 in Pune(with Financed vehicle).
So effectively i found that the new WagonR is abt Rs 30000 cheaper than Santro.
I hope that i cleared the doubt of many friends who r thinking between WagonR and Santro.
Of course if u want to go for look Santro is more good looking car, but if u go technologically WagonR is far ahead of Santro.
Think and Decide…
Regards
pnb_2k
October 11th, 2006 at 7:29 pm
Hi guys!
I am planning on getting a santro for my parents! I have no clue about the payment options available! I would like a brand new car with all the accesories like Leather Seating, Speakers etc.
Please advise me on this!
Thanks!
Divya.
October 13th, 2006 at 1:09 am
Smitha, regarding your query on the AT. I am no expert but this is my interpretation of the automotive mechanics. The difference between a 3-speed and 4-speed would be fuel efficiency with the 4-speed being more fuel efficient, which presumably would be very important when you consider running cost over the long term. In an AT the gear shifts automatically to the higher one as one steps on the accelarator and the speed increases. With fewer speeds (effectively lesser number of gear ratios) you are more likely to be on the lower gear where fuel consumption is higher. A CVT (Continuous variable transmission) would be even more fuel efficient and could match up with manual transmission vehicles. The Honda City/Civic’s I think have CVT’s.
Regards
October 13th, 2006 at 12:16 pm
i have fitted lpg kit for my getz. it is giving very less milage pl suggest.
also i am surprised to see why hundai does not properly push getz?
some times i feel i have purchased an outdated vehicle.
pl. comment
October 14th, 2006 at 7:37 am
Dear Srinivas,
Hyndai Getz is a very good car, but I think it is overpriced.Secondly Swift givin it very hard run because Swift is better option in this level thats why Getz sale is not up to the mark. Get your LPG kit checked, secondly if you want to get more average fron your car(1) use less AC (2) never accelrate unneccessary(3)Drive your car below 80.(4) Shift your gears according to the speed ( given in the manual), Drive mostly in 5th gear if you driving over 50-60 kmph.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:14 am
WAGON R DUO is giving excellent mileage. We are yet to do our first servicing. Under severe traffic conditions in Hyderabad we got somewhere around 15 km/litre of LPG ( Price of LPG = HALF OF Petrol).
So, the cost of running it is equivalant to may be a badly maintained “YAMAHA RX 100″.
Trust me guys, the shiftover from LPG to Petrol and Vice versa is a breeze!!
Donot get lured by big cars, we need fuel efficient cars else they find a permanant place in your show case..
October 15th, 2006 at 12:18 am
Hi Indian driver.
I share your views about AT and Indian mindset [block - to be precise]
Can you say some thing more about the maintenance and availability of used [second hand] Santro AT s ?
October 15th, 2006 at 1:47 am
LPG has delivers less enrgy than the same quantity of Petrol milage is going to be 30% less than petrol, cost os alomost half of petrol .
Power train is going be less and Torque too will be 20% less.
Over all you will save around 30% less on the fuel than petrol.
I think I answerd your question.
October 16th, 2006 at 11:21 pm
Hi Murari,
Happy to know that WagonR DUO is performing well in mileage front. I brought the new WagonR LXi petrol a few days ago. I’m thinking of putting LPG kit after a year. Can u pl suggest me that if i fit the LPG kit (MARUTI certified kit from MARUTI Dealer) will i get the good average and performance ?
Thanx
pradipto
October 18th, 2006 at 4:12 am
Hi,
This is for your openion please
WaganoR LXi LPG Vs WaganoR LXi Petrol (fit CNG from out side) -
Cost in both the cases will be almost same. keeping this in mind that CNG as on today is much cheaper (approx 30%) .Which option is better.
Regards,
October 18th, 2006 at 4:47 am
All,
After a month long research I have bought Santro Xing XO and I am the proud owner of my Santro. I feel Santro is more value for money as compared to the (Dabba-BOX) Wagon R. Hyundai Santro claims 12KMPL while WagonR 14KMPL. And looks, safety and luxury WagonR is no where near Santro. I damn care about resale value.
The deal I got is: Santro Xing XO + Teflon Coat + Anti Rust Coat + Mats + Mud Flaps + Sony XPlod CD Player, XPlod Speakers + Insurance + Registration = 4 Lacs @ KUN HYUNDAI, Anna Nagar, Chennai . I feel this is good deal. And KUN is GREAT in customer relationship.
Thanks,
Phanendra
October 19th, 2006 at 10:04 pm
hello prakash, i have booked a santro xl very recently but after reading your blog i think i should give it a second thought. if comfort is my only considerationthan which should be my choice?a santro or a wagon r?
October 19th, 2006 at 10:18 pm
hi guys, if i go for wagon r,should i go for lpg version? is it more costly than non lpg?what if i go for lxi now and if i feel necessary later can i get it fitted? will that affect cost or efficeincy more?
actually i just managed somehow to write this comment because my command over english is like lpg version itself. i saw some guye are just dhakka parade ie.even worse.
October 20th, 2006 at 9:33 am
Korean toys always last less than Japanese ones. World Over Japanese cars are giving a tough fight to US majors. What will you do with your XO when it won’t run and ask for needless money for repairs? More of your time will also get taxed. We still see Maruti 800s which were purchased in 1985s and 1990s. So that’s proof of Japanese technology at work. And at least there should be one car in the family which does not asks for more and that is the Maruti Suzuki.
October 20th, 2006 at 11:13 am
Yup I saw the similar scene in my city too.The new Wagon R duo dveleop some problem in heavy traffic and after that Road jam happened for some time and poor family is feeling harrassed at that moment.Hmmmm I think thats why Maruti peoples giving Wagon R Duo option only in 2 models of Wagon R becausr they themselves not sure what they have developed.Their higher models of Wagon R don’t have LPG opotion.
October 21st, 2006 at 8:45 am
Hi Guys.
Can any one tell me about Wagon R AT ? or which is better Santro AT or Wagon R At ?
My Budget 4.5 L, Safety and driving ease main concern.
Intend to fit it with CNG hence Milage not much problem.
Thanks a lot
October 21st, 2006 at 10:46 am
Santro AT have four gear automatic whereas Wagon R automatic comes with 3Gears Automatic.Hence speedwise and average wise that 1 extra gear of Santo counts.Both Santro and Wagon R are good cars safety wise.If still confused read reviews on AT from Indian driver and others.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:31 am
I agree Japanese are good at toys and gadgets but not in luxury cars; Europe is the best car manufacturer of the world. And 90% of Japanese cars in US are owned by Asians who are budget aware, want to save money in US. When I compared the interiors and comfort Santro uses most Korean stuff. Maruti uses only the toy (engine) from Japan. And about the 1985s ans 1990s Hyundai is not in India by that time, and I could see 2000 Satros running around in city.
I dont want to spend 4.5L for new car and 1) sit in new car with family and AC on and we sweat; 2) listening dhak dhak (Japanese) engine sound in city driving; 3) low cost plastic around me which makes noise; These are all charesteristics of Maruti’s economy cars, which I bought 6 yrs back and still my parents use it. I spent lot for maintenance on my Maruti whenever I went for long trips on typical Indian roads. Thanks to large netwrok of Maruti service to serve such frequent problems with thier cars.
So no compromises this time, Santro XO is my choice.
-Phanendra
October 25th, 2006 at 11:34 pm
Hi Phanendra,
I think u r biased with Santro looks or may be a non technical person.
After a lot of study i saw that technology used in WagonR is more advanced than Santro e.g
(1) WagonR’s engine is more compact and small but produces the same power as Santro.
(2) Wagon R engine is having 4 cylinder 16 valves, which is 12 in Santro. More valves are always good for engines life and also Exhaust is good.
(3) Wagon R have Electronic Power Steering but Santro have old hydrolic PS. At higher speeds PS automatically disables itself in WagonR for better control over the vehicle.
(4) Wagon R is equipped with 32 bit on board microprocessor, since 32 bit processor are having more speed than 16 bit therefore it’s MPFI section is very efficient.
(5) Also many parts of the vehicle is microprocessor controlled. Vehicle can automatically diagonasis itself if some fault occurs in some parts.
Other than that i found more boot and leg space in WagonR than Snatro.
Regards
pnb_2k
October 26th, 2006 at 7:40 am
Phanendra,
Everyone likes there own car,so pls dont fight like a baby in this forum and shout at the top of your voice to prove Santro is better than Wagon R.This forum has been formed to share your experiences and if you have any knowledge about the cars to share with the ones who has less of idea.Hope on behalf of Prakash I have made my thoughts clear to you.
Congrats of your New Car and thanks for your understanding
Rajiban
October 27th, 2006 at 8:40 pm
Hi
I read many replies here , the initial ones. Prakash has maintained this one looks like.
I really need help to decide between second hand Santro/Wagon R and Zen. I was planning for true value Zen or Wagon R, but those still do not come cheap and then I was suggested to see even santro as WANGON R will not have resale value after say 3 years.
Can some of you suggest me good dealers and authetic AUTOMIBILE person who can check a second hand car for it’s quality of parts etc.
And which car should I go for?
thanks
regards
October 27th, 2006 at 8:46 pm
In succession to earlier query, how safe is it to fit in CNG or LPG cylinder in a car to get better economic performance?
October 27th, 2006 at 8:50 pm
What is the difefrence in Santro AT and Santro XO?
October 28th, 2006 at 10:43 am
I m planning to buy a car. I have sorted out WagonR, Zen and Santro. My measures are comfort and fuel efficiency. Which car do you suggest?
October 29th, 2006 at 7:27 am
Hi Friends…I m planning to get a car for my parents for christmas..
Can anyone tel me the price for Santro XL & XO.I m planning to take it on loan basis..So please let me knw wht wil be the down payment in Thane or Vasai area and wht can be minimum EMI. Shld i go for ICICO or HDFC or any other bank.
Please also let me knw the price with all discount and other charges.
I m purchasing a car first time, so also let me knw if the dealer can provide any free aceessories during purschasing a car in month of november or December..
Thanks & regards
Donald
October 30th, 2006 at 12:21 am
Hi All,
Im in a dilemma whether to buy Wagon R or Santro Xing XO. I just enquired the price of Santro XO in Bangalore, its about 4.27 L. But i was not clear if this price includes accessories, insurance etc. please guide me.
October 31st, 2006 at 6:16 am
Hi, Guys,
Purchase car of any model or make but never on the cost of saftey and comfort as beauty is felt by the person seeing your car on road whereas saftey and comfort is necessarily required to you.
Each car has some advantage and disadvantages.
So dont worry.
MSM NOIDA
November 1st, 2006 at 7:22 pm
Hi,
I am visiting US right now and i am planning to buy a new car stereo with speakers from US.
Will this work fine in my Santro in India?
Do i need to check for anything special while buying a car stereo in US?
Thanks
November 8th, 2006 at 5:01 am
hey sachin
practically speaking
don’t buy stuff from the US coz warranty is a big issue and plus in my recent visit to the US i found the really nice Steros to be damn expensive
say the pioneer is the best suited( experienced it 5th year now)for indian climate conditions and also in terms of sound quality and evrything else and plus u can always go in for the gray mkt one
especially places such as lajpat nagar or karol bagh etc
so i would suggest buying electronic gadgets from t he US is worthless
also the fact that when u return the custom guys might catch hold of you.
November 9th, 2006 at 1:49 am
Hi All,
I came to know that Santro is coming up with CNG version in 2007..by word of mouth from my friends. Is it worth the wait?
November 13th, 2006 at 1:25 am
Hi,
I have received a quote for Wagon R Duo in Mumbai at 4.31 lacs on road price and Alto Lxi quote for Rs. 3.31 lacs on road price. Few accessories included in both. Wait period for Duo is atleast 2 months and Alto is immediate.
I have studied the space and fuel consumption for both the cars. Though Alto is petrol its costing 1 lac extra and in terms of space both cars have the same except Duo being a tall boy car and advantage of being LPG. (paying 1 lac extra for that). I have decide between both in this week itself.
Can you folks help me out in deciding the best car? My need is fuel efficient, and hassel free as I will driving around 50 kms daily.
Cheers
Ashish
November 13th, 2006 at 5:09 am
i am kanika from Delhi and i have already booked a santro XL. I wanted to buy the Xo but in the end the 4 power windows deterred me!! Afer all the accidents happening on the roads - especially Delhi and NCR when people were burnt alive/ asphyxiated due to power windows sticking.
Are such accidents common else where in the world and othe parts of India also or what?
Also have noticed it i snot any specific company whose cars are failing but many of teh reknowned ones.
is this concern there with any other person also? i would sure like to know.
November 14th, 2006 at 7:54 am
Hi Prakash,
I recently moved to chennai from b’lore and I own a beautiful bright silver Santro which I am extremely proud of. I have driven most cars and think it cant get better than a santro ina city like ours. I reach anywhere on my car as quickly as I could on a bike with more comfort. For my comments on Wagon R…I would say one really needs to take a second look when it comes to looks….if your car cant look good then its might as well not talk about it… Now on the other part I am trying to locate a service centre for my Hyundai in the web and looks like almost impossible to find in chennai. The official hyndai website though says ” Sorry cant find any records when I try in the south tamil Nadu chennai…I am surprised….dont we have any service centre at all????
Thanks
B
November 14th, 2006 at 3:57 pm
hi, sachin
U may go for satro inspite of wagon r b’coz, wagon r can’t handle more than 2 spk…n a subwoffer(not at all).
November 16th, 2006 at 7:20 am
Had a little bit of experience with wagon R that i bought 3 months back. Its the latest shape VXI (2006). I found that the service centres dont have the upgraded equipment to service the new wagon R. The new wagon R’s ECU (Electronic circuit) could not be recoginized on SUZUKI Tech 2 device which they use to find out the the statistics and to know if all the sensors are correct. It gave the message wrong ECU selected.
When i enquired about this with the head of the service station, he admitted that they dont have the upgraded software for their equipment.
Although there’s no problem in my car but atleast i should have facts to prove this.
One more problem was that someone took away the cover (one that covers the nut bolts on the door) of my electronically adjustable door mirror and the spare is not available anywhere.
Otherwise it is a wonderful car and i simply love to drive it. The average is excellent, i’m getting 14-15 kmpl already.
November 16th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
Brijesh,
That shouldh’t be a problem as Hyndai is based out of Chennai! call them up if the site isn’t working.
Regards
Prakash
November 16th, 2006 at 1:13 pm
The problem of power windows not opening up in an emergency is a concern and there has been incidents in Bombay too. During the heavy rains last year July, a few people died cause their windows had got jammed and got stopped due to water getting into to the electical system. A solution to keep a small hammer in the car..and ofcourse not to panic.. remember you always have the doors and the boot door to get out!
November 21st, 2006 at 5:23 am
Hi
Can any one please tell me if it is safe to fit LPG kit in a Hyundai Accent car? If yes, what will be fuel saving on this?
Thanks.
November 27th, 2006 at 4:32 am
Hi Prakash,
Have one week to decide b/w new WagonR(VXi) and Santro (XL). I need a fuel efficient car…….Can you suggest one as soon as possible. Heard that Santro gives less mileage compared to WagonR. Is that true. i liked the looks of santro. Plz suggest me
December 3rd, 2006 at 5:24 am
Hi Purchased ne wagon R . feeling great about it. I think santor is a waste of time and money.
–Pankaj
December 4th, 2006 at 8:12 am
Just bought Santro AT without even looking at the Wagon AX, it was no-brainer to go with Santro AT for these reasons ;
1. For stop-and-go traffic as in bengaluru/mumbai, AT is a clear choice not even over Wagon AX but include manual. The only reason why people are going to manual is the mileage, which if one does the math correctly they gain not more than 1 or 2 km per liter at the cost of ;
One hand in the gear all the time, moving from 1st and 2nd gear, the other hand on the steering wheel, left leg on the clutch (almost all the time), right leg switching between break and accelerator, all these are used all the time in the stop-and-go traffic. One can differentiate the driving experience between honda activa and a geared bike/scooter.
2. The Wagon AX is pricy by Rs.1L, might as well go with city CVT, but B segment is Ideal for indian roads and traffic condition.
3. Santro is 4 speed with Over Drive, reading thru this blog many don’t know about this and the way AT’s work and how one can get the best mileage out of it. Many with Manual know how to save a liter of gas by down shifting from 2 to 4 or use 2nd gear to move from a stop and go traffic, down side the clutch and the transmission wears sooner.
Coming to getting best out of AT’s mileage, following the below ;
1. Move the gear to ‘N’ when stopped at traffic light.
2. Turn off the AC when stopped with air being circulated within the cabin,
this allows the best use of AC and intake of power from engine, engine
will last longer, this is true even for the stick. Turn on the AC on the
fly after you have opened all the windows to let the hot air out, I
usually turn on when it is falling on 3rd gear.
3. Accelerate slowly when taking off, this is a big saver as the most fuel is consumed in the upper gears. The AT’s fall to the lower gears faster than manual and at times better responsive than an average stick driver.
you can smoke all maruti ‘B’ segment variants with the AT.
I’m already getting 10+kmpl in first hunderd km.
As regards choice of Santro, could’nt be better in terms of handling, responsive, from and rear legroom, 3 adults can sit comfortably in the rear seat, sufficient luggage space, hatchback makes it even more spacious as against sedans. I think the AX has more luggage space, but other things like ;
3 speed over 4 speed,
1L more, not attractive at all even if AX gives 2-3 km more
Box design over aerodynamic, the AX is more likely to flip over in sharp turn at high speeds.
Is’nt that a no-brainer!
All the best, safe driving, wear seat belts no matter how fast you are driving it saves than an air bag can ….
December 6th, 2006 at 9:47 am
Hi Prakash,
I am planning to buy a car which can be used in city. I have a budget of Rs. 3.5 to 4.5 lakhs. I want to purchase a petrol car. My monthly travel is around 1000 km. I was thinking of buying either Santro or Swift. Now as the new Maruti Zen has been launched, I am not very clear which car i shall purchase.
Kindly guide.
Thanks,
Vishwas
December 7th, 2006 at 11:34 am
Dear Raj very good pointer you give about Santro AT.Thesr are very useful for the maintance of car and also the fuel efficiency.
December 9th, 2006 at 8:48 am
I come from mountainous country, bhutan and i am planning to buy a family Indian brand car. I have been reading and exploring every possible reviews ,websites etc. Yeah I have narrowed my chooise to Maruti WagonR- VXI and santro xing but could really decide between two. My concern with the vehice are
-it should have power, good pickup etc as i will be driving in hilly areas
-good milage and less problem
-will be travelling in muddy and rough roads
-well built body that does’t sound within a month of driving
please advice me.
Thanks in advance
December 20th, 2006 at 7:31 am
not a single comment for my concern and request from these many car owner. He….hiii
December 24th, 2006 at 10:33 pm
Karma leki, Both option that you have shortlisted won’t help you in hilly region, the wagon is worst as it can easily flip over. Both have small wheels, 13″, you need bigger wheels to run thru those terrains. The best in this segment is Toyota Innova, it is truely value for money, give its track record on reliability, aero dynamic design and fuel efficency. Other options are jeep, tata’s trucks.
If you are looking for B segment car you may probably wait for some more time, more new cars are coming.
January 1st, 2007 at 2:49 am
I purchased Tata Indica Xeta GLX (topend model) 1396 CC on 3rd Nov’06 from Concorde Motors. I noticed the very high abnormal noise inside the cabin (if u close all windows its going to be nightmare) and brought to the notice of dealer immediately on the next day and then onwards started my worst times with the dealer as I left the car for repair of the abnormal noise atleast 10 times and since they are not highly qualified technically, they have messed up the whole issue by changing wheel bearing, rotating tyres, replacing tyres, underbody adjustments, window beedings settings, hub play adjustments, etc. and confirmed that it is due to the tyres running noise which is normal
but
i was not convinced and on my insistence finally after nearly 2 months, Concorde Motors took the help of TATA Motors service people, attended and concluded that there is no problem in the car as it is generating operational noise inside the cabin which is due to the design of the car.
I opine my views that after driving many cars in 1000 cc segments, this car is good in all respects but MAJORLY FAILS in curtailing the abnormal noise generating inside the cabin which disturbs the peace of mind, causes irritation, kids/oldies gets tired, etc.
Moreover during the entire repairing process, Concorde Motors have spoiled the Steering wheel adjustment which is now pulling the car to one side and also caused HUGE PLAY in the steering wheel which is risky to drive especially while taking turns (now needs to give more turns to my steering). BECAUSE OF REPEATED FAILURES IN SETTING STEERING WHEEL PROBLEM, I WENT TO THIRD PARTY WHEEL ALIGNMENT SHOP FOR SOLUTION BUT FAILED TO GET AS THE PROBLEM IN STEERING PLAY IS NOT DUE TO WHEEL NONALIGNMENT. HOWEVER, PULLING PROBLEM GOT RESOLVED BY THE WHEEL ALIGNMENT SHOP.
AS APART, REAR SEAT ALIGNMENT PROBLEM ALSO EXISTS WHICH DOES NOT BALANCE THE HEIGHT OF SPLIT SEATS AND ALSO FOUND HUGH GAP BETWEEN SPLIT SEATS WHICH HAS BEEN ATTEMPTED SEVERAL TIMES BY CONCORDE AND THEY EVEN TOOK THE PHOTO OF THE REAR SEAT AND SENT TO TATA MOTORS FOR ADVISE WHICH IS NOT RESOLVED TILL DATE AND THEY ARE RECKLESS TO THE CUSTOMER REQUEST/FEEDBACK.
FINALLY TO SAY, CONCORDE MOTORS HAVE DITCHED ME FROM ALL CORNERS AND CAUSED LOTS OF DISSATISFACTION TO ME INSPITE OF INVESTED NEARLY 4 LACS.
I AM REALLY IN CONFUSION ABOUT THIS CAR DUE TO THE POOR HANDLING BY THE CONCERNED EXECUTIVES/AUTHORITIES FROM CONCORDE MOTORS & TATA MOTORS WHICH MADE ME TO FEEL THAT I HAVE EITHER PURCHASED DEFECTIVE CAR / REPAIRED CAR.
SURELY I WILL NOT RECOMMEND THIS CAR WHICH HAS GIVEN ME NIGHTMARE EXPERIENCES.
January 1st, 2007 at 2:05 pm
I am planning to buy a santro.Pls tell me which model should i buy,XO or XL?What is the use of a body coloured bumper?
January 5th, 2007 at 7:40 am
My thanks to those who initiated this blog. Well, since each of us have our own unique set of priorities and restrictions, the right car for me might be the worst car for you. Nevertheless, blogs like these enable us access to view points of a wide range of users thus enabling us to easily decide which car best suits our needs. Hats off to blogs like these, and those responsible for initiating these.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:08 am
I, am writing in this blog after a long gap.Read NAGARAJ’s comments on XETA.My sympathies are with you friend.TATA’s are a truck maker and will always be a market leader in that.So your decision to invest 4 lacs on a Tata Car was first wrong.
Whenever someone thinks of buying a Bike, we first think of Hero Honda then comes Bajaj (it was a scooter maker previously and after lot of trial and error they finally managed to come up with Pulsar)…Similiarly if anyone thinks of buying a car,the first name that comes to mind is MARUTI and then Hyundai…(Similar case with Hyundai after lot of trials with Santro (XP,XS etc etc…finally settled with XO & XL)….So my suggestion is first think of leader in that particular segment then take a decision on the same.
Cheers!
January 14th, 2007 at 3:43 am
i am planning to buy a wagnor Lxi model can u give me the pro’s and con’s regarding this one
January 14th, 2007 at 8:50 am
Body colour bumpers look good, until they get scrached, because every bumper”s actual colour is black ans thereafter it get painted.when it get scratched the bumber looks very ugly.Body colour bumpers not practical at all.
January 15th, 2007 at 12:47 am
I had written about Wagon R’s superiority over Santro , I just did few changes to my car and look at the spec now
0-60 5.61 sec, Top speed - 155 kms/hr, Fuel efficiency in City with AC 13.5 with out AC 14.5 Kms
There Is no high end roughness in the engine, car stars asking drive more after reaching 60 (4 Valves makes lot of difference from here when compared Santro or Polio)
But be careful about rollover it’s there in both WagonR and Santro.
For me most important thing is Fuel efficiency,Ride and Handling,internal space, Quality of build(santro’s platform is not as good as Wagon R)
and engine response at high revs.
Only Wagon R fulfilled all these aspects, It’s great city car too.
Regarding the changes what I did is
Went Mobil 1 5W-50 engine Oil, Esso 75w-85 Gearbox Oil with Bhadrals gear box additive,and Iridium spark plugs .
I have smooth/crispy ride with feel of 64 horses in high revs.
I now believe in what four valves can do it’s essential which most of the cars by Hyundai/GM/Ford doesn’t want to sell in India for cost reasons.
Look at skoda they have five valves it beat Corolla/Civic in the road test.
I can say car made in India is superior to American/Korean cars.
Wagon R has surpassed as the second best selling car after alto pushed santro third place.
Swift has managed to push Getz to endangered list , So will Zen Estilo do the Santro.
Wish happy new year.
Bye.
Raghu
January 22nd, 2007 at 5:07 am
I’m planning to buy the New WagonR Vxi model.(Silver or Ocean blue). I would like to know from owners or WagonR and Santro as to whether which one gives more clear road visibility. I’ve learnt driving on a Santro and i had to bend forward to see tight corners and dogs on road to the left of the car from inside. Is it the same in WagonR?? Please clarify.
February 5th, 2007 at 1:21 am
hi..
i’m planning for Wagan R Duo over Santro XO.But im little confused. My drive in mainly in city and mileage is a concern for me. So, i had planned for Wagan R Duo(Gas), but some engineer had told me that the car performance is not good in gas and that in long run it will create a problem. Please suggest me what should i do…
February 22nd, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Well,our driver was a die-hard fan of WAGON-R,he had been driving the R for a minimum of 3yrs.But after driving our car,which is SAntro Xing XO(ERlx),his mind and love has shifted to Santro!!
I have driven Wagon R LXi,and saw after 120km/hr,the dashboard vibrates;you will feel the heat and the pressure the car gets at that speed.On the same road,(National Highway 2)I have driven our Santro,and at 154Km/hr,with your window glass closed,you wont feel the car running at that speed;its that smooth.Add to it,its not my opinion,even my friends have seen and admitted it.
The steering is much smoother than WR,and so is the brake.
And looks?One can’t possibley compare WR with a Santro.WR looks like a box,and they copy Santro.All those crystalline lights were taken from Santro,which was released by the later 5yrs back(WR is now releasing it!)
The most horrible part is the Front License plate is not at the center,does it look good?
And we shouldn’t compare a foriegn car with an Indian car collaborated with Suzuki.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
You should be wait for more reviews on Wagon R Duo then decide.
March 12th, 2007 at 12:46 am
Hey guys,
I had made my mind on buying a Santro but i went for the Zen estillo VXi the virgin blue colour, trust me its a wonderful car, smooth steering, very small turning radius (which is a boon in today’s day for parking)and the mileage is pretty good at 15-17 in city run. Its got an efficient ac. good leg space, well also depends on how long your legs are ..lol… The only problem i would say occurs with all the tall boy models (santro, wagonR, zen estillo) is the dead zone especially on the left hand side when you are turning or are on a crossing. Its high time car manufacturers fix this problem.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:47 am
sir,
on march 2nd week i purchased pre-owned santro zing LE 2003 model, car just running around less than 30,000 KMS. i need ur maintainance tips, now this car is giving me a excellent performance and it’s suitable(aged persons and ladies)and for long journey.
thku
kumar andrews
March 15th, 2007 at 5:38 am
Hi Prakash,
I was considering buying small car Santro Xing XL or WagonR LXi. I like Xing for looks. Both are nearly priced equal except that Xing XL would have front power windows extra.
A frient of mine advised me to checkout Indica Xeta GLG model which has comparable features with little quite space in the rear seat. My usage would be less 5000 kms/year maximum. My seating need is 4 adults and 2 kids. The price of Indica GLG less by 50000 and Indica GLS is less by 75000 compared to Xing or WagonR. Claimed average of Indica Xeta is 12 with AC in city conditions.
Please advise which one to purchase.
March 17th, 2007 at 6:21 am
This is response to Ranbir’s Comment on WagonR.
Both these cars can reach to Mac speed of ~145 and now where close to 154 what you mentioned.
I have a wWagon R since last 1.5 years , yes I had little sound but it was from engine not from dash board.
When it comes to cooling Wangon R beats Santro , I have driven my car from Bangalore to Goa and back car never felt over heat.
I suspect your driver hasn’t changed the liquid col lent in the car for years.
regarding technology 3 valve is a failed technology, all the upmarket cars have more number of valves per cylinder makes the car ride lot smoother than 3 valve.
LML had three valve technology they failed miserably.
We often fall for glamor over Substance, poor build quality and large/inefficient engine
which produces less power than Wagon R is ignored by just face lift Hyundai did to Santro.
Santro is only lifeline for Hyundai now all other cars have flopped in sales Getz will be seen in museum in two years from now elantra is already in museum.
-Raghu
March 19th, 2007 at 8:03 am
I am planning to buy a Car and decided to buy WagonR DUO.
I think after reading to all these comments on small carz i can say that for people who are going to use a car for atleast 5 Years WagonR DUO Would be the be the better option. Becasue Service, Milage and maintanance for WagonR is always better.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
Just 15 days back purhcased a new Wagon-R Duo model BS-III.
Received a Cash discount of Rs. 8251/- on Ex-showroom price.
Facing a problem-
while I am facing a problem with my new Car. There is noise in Dicky Shocker (at time when I used to open the back dicky door there is a great noise from dicky shocker). I have also get it checked from local Maruti Dealer but the Technician told me that the same noise problem is with all the Wagon-R vehicles.
With LPG tank fully fill (22 Ltrs.) I have received a mileage of about 255 Kms within the purchase of 10 days of vehicle.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:38 am
Hi,
I have purchased Santro Xing XK(Non-Ac). I would like to fit other AC with less cost.
Where i Can purchase? If it is possible, then whether it is match to Santro Xing?
It should be Branded company AC with warranty.
Pls Clear my doubts.
April 2nd, 2007 at 5:39 am
My search and homework for a new car in the mid-segment started in the month of Feb 2007 and went on upto 45 days. Cars that were in consideration in the first 15 days of comparision: Wagon R, Santro, Zen Estillo, Swift, Getz and Alto. It was not tough to short list the whole search into just 2 cars out of 7 in the list. Thats wagon r and santro zing.
I owned a toyota corolla in the mid east in 2003 (same model that is on indian roads now) and our company car was an Audi A6. My in law owns a skoda octavio in which i travelled around 1200 kms in one stretch. Therefore comfort, drive pleasure, engine noise, body noise, AC, Day and Night drive difference, Maintenance, Mileage, Availability of spares, resale value etc were all put together in the searching process for the new car. Surprisingly I had to choose a car that was not to my liking (atleast body shape wise) as a result of the true comparisons with real-time owners and regular users of all the cars of the 7 list menu. Thats WAGON R LXI. Took the delivery end of March. My search was purely without any prejudice on any particular brand or make, but was with an open heart with sincere comments and tips from real owners.
Wagon R Lxi has everything what I wanted. Comfort, Drive Pleasure, Engine power, Clear view of the road, Plenty of leg and head space, Well designed interior with space for any little things or gadgets you own. Front view of the wagon r gives you a SUV look with the new wide grills and shaped head lights. 3 Spoke steering, Rear seat head rest (same as in luxury cars Benz and BMW. Folding the rear seat to the front you can carry a 270 ltr refrigerator inside. Child lock for rear doors is a blessing. If you want a safer feeling on the road at high speeds, change your tyres from 145/70 (standard) to 155/70 or 165/80. I didnt feel like spenting money for security system till now, the driver door lock acts as a central lock. Abour the mileage, long drive comforts etc, I will post more by end of April.
April 9th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
i am thankful to all these people who shared their vast experience which gave me a clear direction to me.please tell which car is less accident prone in maruti WR and Santro Xing
April 13th, 2007 at 4:00 am
Hi guys
Iown both wagon r lxi and santro and ask me santro much much superior as compared to the latter as its technology is more advanced
April 13th, 2007 at 4:04 am
Hi guys
i have recently purchase a brand new santro and i wish to maintain the same.please give some tips to me to increase the mileage?
April 14th, 2007 at 6:06 am
Dear All, Noticed the question is beeing asked again and agin. If should Santro or Wagon-R. I have drive so many automatic cars, like: Toyota, ford, Kia, other, anyway but Question here is that which is the best SENTRO OR WAGON-R?
BELEVE ME WAGON-R IS THE BEST ONE I FOUND THROUGHT.
MAVI
April 17th, 2007 at 2:21 am
Hi Shaju…
Congratulation for your new baby-SUV
I have also a WR-LXI (FAB-07).
wats your on road milage with All time AC on??
mine till now is ~ 15 Kpl..
Regards
Ricky
April 17th, 2007 at 4:26 am
Hi Prakash Ji,
Thanks for providing a good platform comparison b/w santro and wagon r.I am planning to buy either of the above mentioned cars.I have heard that wagon r becomes shaky at & above the speed of 120 km/hr.How far is this fact true? Please do reply.
April 18th, 2007 at 3:29 am
hi,
WAGON-R is the best small car in india my car milege is 18+ on highway with ac and 14+in local with ac and ac is better then santro i drive it max. 150 km.p/h i go with my family rohtak to vaishnow devi but i dont feel tireness we enjoy our journey.And it looks like small Pajero. and santro looks like MOUSE.
and (TATA INDICA is NOT A CAR ITS A POOR & OLD TRACTOR)his sound is tractor tractor tractor tractor tractor
April 21st, 2007 at 1:55 am
Prashant,
I don’t think Wagon-R has a problem if the speed is more than 120, you can read the posts on the blog. I have used a Santro above 120 and never had a problem.
But how often does one need to do such high speeds? Specially when neither the roads nor the tyres are not ready to for this.
April 21st, 2007 at 5:46 am
AC in Santro fitted from outside work ok.Price around 13000 rs.
April 27th, 2007 at 12:02 am
Hi
Iam in Mumbai and iam planning to buy wagonR after reading about the performance it delivers. I have a dilemma if some body can help me i’ll be thankful:
1) Should I go for LXI or VXI ?
LXI cost-396000 after a discount of 17000/-
VXi cost 427000 after a discount of 17000/-
is it worth shelling 30000/- for power windows, keyless entry, defogger the main upgradations?
2) should i go for LPG or petrol? I want to know the mileage and performance comparison and cost of LPG. Also please bear in mind that LPG rates are 50% subsidised and can go up any time espesially in vehicle segment if not so in cooking.
3)should i go for swift lxi? cost 442000( afer dis of 17000)
4) is the discount of 17000 okay or i can get more?
5) should i have an immobiliser also and what is it?
6) is teflon coating worth? anti-rust coating on the floor of car i believe is worth.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:16 am
Hi, I’m planning to buy a santro xing XL metallic. The dealer’s listed price in chandigarh is 354753. In this price the dealer is providing me Free insurance, MP3 player, Remote central locking and other Accessories. I was about to purchase it, but at the same time my neighbour purchased same model from another dealer. He told me that he has got 40000/- discount (after bargaining) on his car with same set of free accessories + insurance. Now I’m in confusion what to do. I don’t know if he is telling truth or not. Is there this much amount of bargaining possible? Should I go for the deal that my dealer is providing considering that my neighbour is telling lies?
I would like to hear your comments
Regards
Kamal
May 13th, 2007 at 7:58 am
thnaks prakash ji for running this great site. thousands of people aspiring for a new car and in delimma which to choose are well guided by u. keep giving more and more inputs thanks arun
May 21st, 2007 at 6:06 am
Hi!
I am thinking of taking a small car..
Confused between Indica Xeta & Wagon R(petrol)regarding the mileage & the Resale price i’ll get after 3 years..
Plz help.
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:57 am
hi
as far as comparison is possible , i guess wagon-r stands much higher .
besides technical supiriority it hhas lodz of things for women as well.
i. woman , specially mothers find it easier to ride as they just have to slid, while in santro you have to go inside and sit , understand the seat hieght is perfect .
2. the fron driving view is much better in wagon r , say you see bonut and can measure anything with as low margin as possible , say for people of short height prefer this .
3. despite registered as 4 seater , it can carry 2 extra passengers if urgengy .
i have both and like wagon r more
May 31st, 2007 at 8:13 pm
Can some one tell me whats the exact Iridium spark plug that can be USED on Wagon R???
Whether NGK Spark plug DCPR7EIX works????
May 31st, 2007 at 11:16 pm
Hi!
I would like to know if any of you Santro owners have fitted an LPG Kit and how do you rate its performance?
June 1st, 2007 at 11:36 pm
Anyone having the factoryfitted lpg model of wagon-R?
CAn i know when the the new model of santro with LPG is going 2 be launched in the market?
Can i know how these cars perform?
June 9th, 2007 at 6:31 am
Hi
Iam looking to buy hatch back car model and am little confused between santo xing v/s xeta indica. Experts in this forum pls let me know which is a good model. xeta indica also looks good and since it is a new model am little apprehensive.
rgds
ganesh
June 11th, 2007 at 3:56 am
I need some very genuine advice urgently on my car. I have a santro xing feb 2006 model with mumbai registration. i have recently moved to hyderabad for good. and here due change of state i’ll have to re-reigster my car here. i dunno how much it will cost me(any guessess??) and how difficult or easy is it to do so….as i hate running behind our cheap and cunning govt officials.
second option i have is to sell it at mumbai, for which i am already getting offers in the range of 250000 - 300000. could you plese let me know how much can i get if i sell my car? its a santro xing XO fully loaded with mp3+customised high-end speaker fixtures. and it has just touched 20k kms. and gives me a good average.
thanks for all your help and advice.
sunny
June 15th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
hi to all
i am varun from hyderabad city .i am pretty confused i and deciding to take a wagon R duo .But sum one recently suggested that wagon R dua wil give trouble in the long run and already sum customers r complaining of sum problems only after 1 year of purchase. so please can anyone sugest me who had already that car like shud i go for it or not .i want a fuel and cost efficient car thats y i was going for that plz suggest me correctly as i am buying a car after 10 yrs after driving maruti 800 for 10 yrs.so waiting for the response from mr prakash ji also
thanks in advance for ur advice
varun
June 18th, 2007 at 3:14 am
hi
Am a mumbite , travel below 50km per day. now using a maruti 800 car. Am planning to go for a better car. i hv seen Zen estilo LXi, WagnoR Duo Lxi. Would request feedback on foll.
1. Is wagnoR duo Lxi is better than Estilo Lxi
2. Lpg Fuel spoils life span of engine sooner?
3. whcih has got more resale value?
4. Do Lpg car gives trouble in heavy mum city
traffic?
5. Maruti dealers are not keen in selling
wagnoR Duo Car. is there any issue?
6. do LPG car give trouble in heavy rainh
kindly send yr feedbacks for me proceed.
thanking you in anticipation.
b rgds
iyer_khushi at yahoo.com
June 21st, 2007 at 1:46 am
Hi Friends,
Am planning to buy a CAR with more leg space & comfortable. After reading the reviews am bit confused on whether to go for WagonR or Santro.Please guide me on this.
My budget is around 4.5lacs & am going for loan
Also which are the models that come with ABS in boths let me know.
I would also like to know some besta bargaining tips.
Kindly Help me in making a good decision …
Thanks in advance
Madhu
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:09 am
Hi,
Reply to iyer_khushi at yahoo.com
Have Test driven the Santro Xing XL, Wagon R petrol and Zen Estilo in Mumbai
Zen Estilo good in driving, but I felt as if It was a M 800 car(currently I own one 1999 Model ). Plus when u drive at times you feel there is something missing between you and the bonnet. Old Zen much better. Though the specs of estilo is the same as Wagon R and its a bit cheaper.But lacks driving pleasure (I felt so!)
Santro XL, good car to drive, gear very smooth compared to Estilo or Wagon R. Seating also good,plus hyundi gives lots of discount ! XL model get power windows in front.(wagon R LXI - no power windows) Heard Hyundi are good sellers, but after sales / service is not so good, plus parts are supposed to be expensive later. I mean 5 years down the line, santro production stops (as of now only santro is doing business for Hyundi !!).. parts not there.. then what ??
Wagon R petrol(test drivin 4-5 times !!)
Good car to drive, looks i am not so concerned, looks a bit of SUV type and Nice/OK.Featurs are lots !! Braking very good and EPS (electronic Power Steering) very good. Peppy car to drive.Getting in an out of the car is easy, even for the eldery (unlike in santro - will have to bend a bit). It was a pleasure driving Wagon R.
Maruti sales/service cheaper, can re sale after 5 years, engine good and A/C also powerfull, fuel efficent. Has got good height while driving (guess better than santro)
I have test driven also the Wagon R DUO,switched to petrol as the petrol version of Wagon R was out for another test drive. Same as above. Few changes in console.
One thing i noticed that maruti did not ask me or pushed me for a LPG / DUO version. Just the petrol version.
Could be also my budget was a bit tight just for an LXI !
LPG in future could cause an issue. Depends how much you travel everyday. More than 50 Kms+ then you can opt for LPG. My traveling is mostly in city and max to 20-25 kms !!
WAGON R LXI - I BOUGHT -PASSION RED !!
Wagon R - Test drive from Spectra motors (borivali)
Santro - Test drive from Shreenat (Andheri)
June 28th, 2007 at 4:37 am
Hi people,
Does anyone have any experience of doing an external fitment of an LPG kit on a Santro Xing XL eRLX.
If so, please provide me with details of engine performance and mileage on LPG etc.
Also, is it advisable to do an extrernal LPG kit fitment on the Santro eRLX.
Thanks.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:18 am
Hi,
I am planning to buy Santro XL.
Advaith B’lore is making the following final offer -
On Road - 4.06 lakhs
Insurance Free - 10,000 worth
Hyundai Music System Free - 5,000 worth
Teflon polish (not Teflon coating)
Mud flaps, Perfume, Doll
Is this a good deal? Can we get a better deal than this?
This is my first car and I don’t want to get a raw deal due to my inexperience. So, any help is highly appreciated.
Thanks much!
July 4th, 2007 at 4:20 am
Go for a Santro!! I’ve bought a WagonR Vxi and am extremely dissatisfied. As far as fuel efficiency is concerned - this vehicle drinks fuel. I am already three servicings old and am still getting in the range of 11-12 Km to the litre in the city. As for spares being cheaper, I got one of my rear lights smashed into. Guess what it is plastic and not covered under warranty. It cost me 900 bucks. Then someone chose to crash into my rear bumper and make a small dent. I wanted it rectified. Seems this is plastic once again. It needs to be completely replaced at a cost of 4200 bucks. Who said spares are cheap ??? Within one year, I’ve had the side door changed - due to manufacturing defects and the entire Steering assembly changed (thankfully it was under warranty). Go for a Santro any day!!!
July 5th, 2007 at 4:36 am
I bought a Santro Xing erlx about 2 months back.
I am cleaning the car everyday by using a soft wet cloth. I noticed that there are scratch marks all over because of cleaning like this. Why is this happening? Whats the best way to clean? Does this mean that my car was not teflon coated? The dealer said he would do it but whats the proof that he has? How do i verify this?
Does anyone have any maintenance tips that you can give me?
Thanks in advance for your response.
July 5th, 2007 at 4:54 am
hey prakash !!
i want to buy a second hand wagon r or santro as i’ve just learnt driving. plz suggest which one to go for ?? will an old santro come cheap as hyundai had changed its shape in 2003 ??
are both these cars fitted with anti-roll bars and side impact beams ??
July 6th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Hi Mohit,
Second hand Santros are usually cheaper than Wagon-Rs.Yes older model of Santro should be cheaper.
I think most new cars have side impact beams, but you may want to double check.
July 7th, 2007 at 5:44 am
Ever since I bought my Santro Zing utomatic last year I have had a recurring problem with the temperature gauge showing that the car is overheating. This happens from time to time particularly when the A/C is on. The dealer after many visits now says it is a coolant valve. Is this a complaint that anybody else has faced in the new car? Any ideas?
July 9th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
I have a question about Santro. I am planning to buy a Santro XK (Non AC Model). Is it safe to get an AC installed in the car? How much the AC would cost?
How the car’s performance will be affected? Is there any risk on getting an AC from outside? How would be the milleage of the car?
Please respond as I am a no-vice to cars, and am very new to all these.
Please suggest…..
July 11th, 2007 at 1:42 am
So finnaly Santro has come up with CNG versiion, which is nothing but the same ERLX engine on that they gey get u CNG fitted , Sunrise is given me qoute of 48,000 on Papers and the warranty stay as it is of the CAR Nimbus is giving me qoute of 60,000 in and around Noida , so pls provide feedback and also what the vendors are offering in other cities.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
i m driving santro from last 3 yrs .its too comfortable i cant tell u.recently i fitted lpg cylinder in my car it working really good. giving me a mileage of 1 rs kilometer .300 rs ka clinder 280 se 300 ki mileage.sone pe suhaga. santro is best .santro is best.santro is best
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:35 pm
maruti suzuki wagonr is nice car b’coz its look is nice,power stiaring is fine,its fule tank.car space. everithing of wagonr its fine………….
July 29th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
I had test driven Wagon R, Zen estilo, spark and Santro and foll is the feedback :
Wagon R - good pickup, gear shift is imprecise and also looks old fashioned.
Zen estilo - Shakes a lot while on rough roads, cornering is not good, view is also not very impressive
Santro - Smooth to drive, gearshift is easy and pickup is great. also it handles bumps and disturbances of road surface wihout any vibrations.
Spark - gearing is smooth, horn is awkward to operate - you have to press a diaphragm like circle to activate horn instead of the usual steering/spoke mounted one, speedometer is placed in the middle again a deviation.
I feel if you want a good driving experience and comfort alongwith good looks then go for Santro. If you want economy and low total cost of ownership then go for Wagon r/Zen Estilo.
I finally went for the Santro Xing XL after 3-4 months of close evaluation.
Cheers to the Santro ! - The Sunshine car
July 30th, 2007 at 8:16 am
I think reading this discussion leads to more confusion than solution What ever car u own u find it more better ( No other option )it is totally opposite to the phrase ” other’s wife seems good always”
So better not to waste the time & go by your own choise,purchase capacity,need & likings
August 3rd, 2007 at 4:58 am
I am owning a santro frm the past 3 years now, its a no trouble vehicle, just a times I feel its a tad slow in response to your accelaration, but for city driving its the best, you can just zip zap and zoom.
On highway I have got a max mil of 18Kmpl
seatings are pretty good, however due to the position of the A B C, which are quite close to the dash board, you will feel some pain in your legs if you drive for long or are struck in a jam.
Overall a pretty good vehicle to own
August 8th, 2007 at 12:32 am
I have booked a WagonR LXi. The reasons which made me to go for WagonR is :
1. Electronic Power Steering.
2. Better Service Network of Maruti.
3. Maruti is in India from 1984 onwards.
4. Cheaper Spare parts.
5. It has a good hieght compared to Santro.
6. My mother is having Osteo Arthritis, where she was able to sit in the backseat of WagonR without much effort than in a Santro.
7. Nice interiors and more utilities like it has a tray beneath steering and dashboard.
8. Lesser Gear changes in City riding.
9. Eventhough WagonR is a 4 seater vehicle, 5 people can comfortably travel.
10. it has an MPFI 16 Valve 1061 CC Engine.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:13 am
Do anybody have any updates about new santro xing CNG. I am concerned about its performance, mileage, pickup etc.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:44 am
Recently we have taken Maruthi Suzuki Wagon-R I need the information regarding service centers in Andhra pradesh specially in Hyderabad and Nizamabad.plz send the reply to aboue E-mail Id. Thnak u sir,
August 17th, 2007 at 6:25 am
Hi,
I am from Pune. Wanted to go for Santro XO. On Road price is 4.25 lacs. Sanjay Hyundai is offering me free insurance with 3 rd year warranty. Corporate discount : 4000
freebies : mudflaps , mats.
Is it worth going for this deal ? I was expecting some more cash discounts. Please advice.
August 19th, 2007 at 4:43 am
Santro Xing XO is really a worthy one to go foe. Sharp and quick engine responses, perfect handling, crisp gear shifts, and not the lest, the superb fast A/C - All these features are above its competitors; including the recent Spark.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:52 am
I have a santro bought some 2 years back and I have hardly driven it. Just 12K kms in 2 years. The driving is pleasure.. but the problem is I had to replace clutch plates when the car has just run 3000 kms. They said I might have habit of putting my leg on clutch .. but I showed the service station my driving habits and they had no clue how it happened. Again now after 12000 kms I have to replace clutch plates (expense of around 5000 Rupees).. am not happy at all with this car
August 28th, 2007 at 7:26 am
can anybody give a spares price list for Wagon-R and A Santro?
September 5th, 2007 at 10:46 am
Raj and indian_driver,
How’s your Santro AT doing.. Any more tips.. What about early/constant wearing out of brakes being an automatic transmission engine
September 7th, 2007 at 3:40 am
I have a black Santro Xing-XL.It has encountered lot of small scratches while cleaning the car.Can anyone suggest the best way to remove those scratches ?You can mail me to vasu1971ATyahoo.com
September 9th, 2007 at 2:15 am
Iam planning to buy AT model and almost coming to a decision to Buy Maruti Wagon R- AX BSIII with immobaliser. is it a good choice? if compared with Santro AX model? This will be used by my wife and I think not more then 20km/day. Please help me to know if this is a good choice and what more extra assessories i can install in it to make it more comfortable.
September 15th, 2007 at 11:30 am
Can anybody tell how much is the cost for a branded a/c with waranty that fites in to Santro Xing XK Non AC model.
September 16th, 2007 at 2:38 am
Guys & Gals, I have booked Wagon R AX - BSIII with immobaliser and hoping to get the vehicle delivery in next 5~6 weeks.So after Diwali around last week of November I will post my review of this car for you all,till then …Sayonara.
September 16th, 2007 at 2:45 am
By the way… it is (Wagon R-AX BS III-With immobaliser and metallic paint-passion red)costing me a whopping Rs 5.30Lakhs,incl:Life time road tax,insurance,RTO registration with number plate,service charges (Ex-showroom price at Varun motors is Rs 4.69Lakhs) on road at Visakhapatnam, Dealer Varun Motors-Visakhapatnam
September 22nd, 2007 at 8:28 am
hi india_driver, Can you tell us the present performance of your Santro AT, i hope its been a year that you are driving this car,
how do you rate your decision now?
what is the mileage your getting?
what is the service and maintainance cost?
please mail at accentATaccenttec.com
regards
Brijesh
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:17 pm
How much will be the price of branded a/c that can be fitted to Santro Xing XK, (Not from Hyundai dealer). Is it difficult todrive santro xing without power steering. I am usinga Skoda Octavia in my home town. But I am looking here for a powerful , and stylish 4 wheeler with in the price tag of 3.17 thousand. Please give me sugessions
September 26th, 2007 at 7:33 am
Hi All,
I m planning to purchase a car in few days and i m much confuse and i m new for car driving and purchasing. i m confused between SANTRO Xing XO and WeagonR Lxi…..
I want to know which car is best for me..
i like SANTRO in lookwise and interior…
but, i read above comments and most of the guys are saying to go fopr WeagonR…But, i think those comments are old and i need latest comments for the latest version of SANTRO and WeagonR….
I found that interior,looks and ridings are good then WeagonrR (i did not drive any car).. I m so much confused.. please give me youe valuable comments.. Thanks
September 28th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Hi All,
I am confused between xing/W-R but seeing all the reviews .. it buits some confidence in picking Wagan-R as I want mileage and maintanance to be less expsive, but I have come to know that W-R Duo is giving sme trouble while on LPG.
Please give me a genuine feedback, so that I can purchase this machine, i am thinking of purchasing this in the comming month.
Thanks
Shiva
September 29th, 2007 at 1:34 am
I m planning to purchase a car in few days and i m much confuse and i am new for car driving and purchasing. i m confused between SANTRO Xing XO and WeagonR Lxi…..
I want to know which car is best for me..
I m so much confused.. please give me your valuable comments.. Thanks
October 1st, 2007 at 12:33 am
Hy all,
I’v booked SANTRO XINGS GLS model on 30th Sept.07, after confusion in Santro & Zeta becuase my running is 60 km per day, i look for CNG both allowed for CNG, but due to better performance through some user I go for Santro GLS MOdel launched in this week, which has cost me 3.8L with discout+MP3+Free ins.+mud flap. without CNG Kit. which is costlier than zeta by 60-65K. but some confidence that Santro would much be better in sitting, high cabin, style, mileage, re-sale value etc.
October 6th, 2007 at 10:50 am
WagonR is the best when compared to Santro. Santro is easy to drive but other than that I dont see any advantage in it. But WagonR has all the features more advantageous for Indian roads. That too the new WagonR looks better than any other B segment vehicles. Buy WagonR and enjoy ride with less cost and more happiness.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
santro is not a bad looking car but we look in back side of the santro we found that any other vehicle can full damage it that’s way. or wagonR is the first wide body car not the Logan.
October 9th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
I would like to compare WagonR with Santro Xing. I’m impressed very much by LPG and so am attracted to WagonR Duo. But, if I can buy a Santro Xing and fit a good quality approved LPG kit in it will that be a good option. So, which one do you think would be better?
1. WagonR Duo
2. Santro Xing + LPG kit
October 11th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
One Thing I have to Share is Wagon R is for people who makes decision with the mind and brains and Santro is for those who does the same with their heart.
October 14th, 2007 at 7:29 am
I planning to buy a wagon r Lxi with power steering. However, the dealer is asking to me to buy all accessories, is it cheaper and better to look for accessories from the open market like flaps, mats, music system etc.
October 14th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
The offer on maruti wagon r is 18000 plus 4000 for the premium club holder which can deducted from the cost of maruti wagon r lxi model, is this a good offer compared to other parts of the country. No loan has been taken by me
October 18th, 2007 at 2:20 am
Hi every1,
Loved reading this entire forum. I have recently got my new Santo XL. Reasons for buying was the looks and drive quality. (the rest of the reasons are there in the forums , dont want to repeat the features all over again)
I had zeroed down on the wagon R and santro. But while having a test drive on the wagon R .. I did not get a very safe feeling on turns specially at high speeds.( Wagon R is a fantastic Car , Might be due to the sitting position I had a perception of instability). Another thing is the gear shift. Santro has a lovely Gear shift.
Well I negotiated a lovely Deal on my car. following are the details.
1) Free Insurance
2) Free Half Road Tax
3) Free Teflon and Undercoating
4) Free Darker Tinting of the glasses
5) Free MP3 Player with front 2 speakers (2 yrs warranty) / Body Coloured Bumpers (had to choose between one of them)
6) Free Mattings, Mup Flaps, Steering Cover, Reverse Horn.
Hope this helps you guys in negotiating your deals on new cars. Trust me if u are a aggressive negotiator you can easily get this deal.
well best of luck and Trust me you wont regret buying a Santro.
Cheers !!!!!
October 24th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
The wagon r shakes and makes noises over 90 km/hr i don’t understand why is it because the engine is still very new and not yet opened it has just done 200kms
October 26th, 2007 at 12:05 am
Recomendation for fitting LPG kit:
I have fitted LPG kit in Santro Xing erlx XO model. After running about 10,000Kms and completing the 3rd free service in petrol I went for the option to fit LPG. The petrol mielage at that time is around 18 Kms per litre. I have used the Lovata kit with a 35 litre torroidal tank. The mielage they assure is 80 to 90% the petrol mielage. I am getting a mielage of 15 while using the LPG.
Cost calculation:
Petrol: 18 Kms for 1 litre@46 Rs so 2.56 Rs/Km
LPG from Indian Oil Pump: 15 Kms for 1 litre@27 Rs so 1.8 Rs/Km
Cost of conversion and getting the fuel as gas registered in ur RC book: 20,000Rs
Kms to run to get the money back: 20000/(2.56-1.8) = 26,315 Kms
Even though it is economical to use the LPG, U should have moderately good use of the car daily to get the return for the LPG kit investment.
Mode of use: Starting will be done only in petrol. After going 2 Kms in petrol I used to manually switch it to Gas. The kit also has a automatic shift to gas imediately after the start. But I prefer the shifting to happen only after the engine is heated to a minimum temperature.
Till now I don’t have any problems in using the LPG but I would say that after covering a 1Lac kms only I can recommend whether it is successful.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:22 am
Hi Amit,
Good Deal man.
Let me know where did you buyed it. Which showroom, which dealer, where, etc.,??
Even am looking for a Santro…!!!!
October 29th, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Santro Xing rules anyday over wagon r. We have 2 santros , and we are very satisfied with them
As far as Japanese versus Korean, I wud say
Akai/Aiwa-> Japanese-> Suzuki
Samsung/LG-> Korean-> Hyundai
Wonder why I didnt write Sony for Japanese , bcoz Honda/Toyota are the Sony. Suzuki is like Aiwa/Akai
And Hyundai is Samsung/LG.
So if u were to buya TV wud u buy a Samsung or an Akai. USe common sense. All this japanese vs korean dbate is just an excuse by Wagon R owners to justify their purchase.
Buy whichever u like, but my preference is Santro.
I am here for a visit in USA. I have seen a lot of Hyundai cars( which is the fastest growing brand in US in automobile sector). Although definitely not as many as Honda or Toyota but I am yet to see any Suzuki. Although I have ssen ads of Suzuki on TV here.
So think and decide. Do not go by the korean vs Japanese. A top brand of Korean wud be much better than a low brand of Japanese
November 1st, 2007 at 1:45 am
hi manju
I am from Goa and have got my car from ALCON Hyundai here in Porvorim Goa.
Actually I tried making deals with the 2 dealers in Goa (the other is in Verna Goa). Whenever anyone used to call, i used to tell them that the other dealer is giving me this and that ( sometimes used to bluff ;-)) So used the competition between the two dealers to my advantage.
Hyundai has now stopped the top end XO model. The XL model has been renamed to GLS and has been given colored bumpers n internal adjustable ORVMs. This is now the top model.
I think they r yet to launch a new model called “PA” which will be placed between the Santro and Getz. I think thats Why they have stopped the top end XO model in Santro.
I have almost done 1400kms on my santro. Drove it once a little above 100km/hr (could not resist the temptation), but ur not supposed to exceed 60km/hr before the first service. Anyways the car is very stable even at 100. I think it will remain quiet stable even at speeds of 115-120Km/hr.
Well … ill try the top speed and update the performance in this forum later ….
Santro Thrills !!!!!!!
November 5th, 2007 at 5:38 am
Thanks Amit for ur great suggessions.
November 20th, 2007 at 11:47 am
Hi,
I am from Hyderabad and I am planning to buy Santo GLS(Metalic).
I have inquired the prices from Talwar Hyundai and have got quote as below,
Ex-showroom price : 3,67,458
Life Tax : 33,080
Insurance : 11,339
Service Charges : 2950
Dealer is offering discount as below,
1) Free Insurance
2) Free MP3 Player
3) Free Mattings, Mup Flaps, Steering Cover
4) Fabric Seat covers
5) 4000 corporate discount
Total discount comes to some 30K.
I would like to know can I get further discount.
Few of the initial threads talks about loan discount.
Also, I would like to know how can I get the discount on loan.
Also, it seems that Hyundai is now offering only three variants as GL(Non-AC), GL(AC) and GLS.
I was planning to buy car next year to take advantage of new model, but dealer said I won’t get discount in that case. Is there any way that I can get discount in new year as well. If now, will there be more discounts in the month of April then the present one?
Can I still negotiate if I plan to buy in December?
What is the basis of depreciation calculation?
Please answer at earliest if possible as I need to decide based on the inputs I get and buy this year it self.
Thanks in advance,
Ritesh
November 24th, 2007 at 12:21 am
actly i m going 2 purchase a new car but little bit confused if economy is concern then i m goin 4wagon-r with duo system(petrol
+lpg) but if looks matter then go 4 santro.so plz reply is hyundai launch santro with lpg.plz tell me
November 30th, 2007 at 4:09 am
iam going to buy new car.
but iam in dilemma whether to go for SANTRO Xing or WAGON - R.
please drop ur comments on both of these cars
thanks in advance
December 7th, 2007 at 10:46 pm
CHIRAG VIBHAKAR
DEC.2007
I m planning to purchase a car in few days and i m much confuse . i m confused between SANTRO Xing GLS and WeagonR Lxi…..
I want to know which car is best for me..
I m so much confused.. please give me your valuable comments.. Thanks
December 26th, 2007 at 8:46 am
Hi All,
In last 3 days, I have covered a distance of 1600 Kms in my new Wagon-R Duo, (Bangalore-Udupi-Karwar-Bangalore)and did sort of stress testing on the car.
Average speed: 90Kms
Top Speed: 130 KMPH
Handling is very mooth and responsive.
Overall drive quality even on stretches of bad roads is excellent expecially ground clearance.
Only one concern is Brakes appear to be weak.3-4 times though I braked hard at 100 KMPh from a distance of abt 50 meters, Wagon-R couldnt come to a screeching halt at Potholes and Speed breakers.
Can anyone guide me on following:
1. Is there any way, I can improve braking of wagon R by installig Braking Accesory of MGA or some other company?
2. In case of rim bend what would be impact on normal rim(Default standard fitted by maruti) and Alloy wheels ?
3. Do alloy wheels alos bend and impact alignment/steering wheels ?
4 Can anyone (Raghu) please tell the price of
a. Mobil 1 5W-50 engine Oil,
b. Esso 75w-85 Gearbox Oil with Bhadrals gear box additive,and
c. Iridium spark plugs
Overall , It was amazing drive.Never realised It was a small car on such a long trip (Even in bad roads).
December 29th, 2007 at 5:05 am
I have bought a WAGONr six months back and its the most comfortable vehicle in its class when Compared to SANTRO.It has space than any car.
February 8th, 2008 at 6:21 am
Guys.. lets be practical than just supporting the car which we own.
Both cars comes with tall boy design, which provide more comfort.
On looks also both score same marks.
On driving comfort santro leads a bit since it has wider tyre’s and more power at lower RPM compared to Wagon R. But in Maximum power output WagonR scores 1Bhp ahead.
When it comes to engine, always japanese leads.Lets dont forget WagonR is the largest selling model for Suzuki in Japan.(As Alto in India).
On Fuel economy, both cars sore alike.(excuse the LPG version of WagonR).
On Inital pickup, Santro scores over WagonR due its high power at low RPM.But both cars can reach 100kmph in almost same time.
Both cars have good interiors.Santros odometer is mannual while WaganR’s is electronic.
Maruthi has most no: of service stations. But Santro is known to be a car with zero maintanance.
WangonR placed second in JD power’s study regarding “less no: of problems faced after owning a new vehicle” behind Cherverlet Spark. While santro was not there in top three.(Remember Spark was launched just 5 months back, and wagonR is with us for last 8 years)
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Hi,
I m a new entrant and i hav decided to bi a car.my budget is 4 lac.i hav decided to bi maruti wagonr or chewrolet spark or santro =xing
i want comparitive study about the three.please help. not daily driving.pl help me to choose
February 27th, 2008 at 12:24 am
hello
i need a car and where i live, the cheapest ones are the maruti suzuki models. Toyota, Renault etc are too expensive. I saw the Maruti Suzuki Wagon R and i’m thinking of buying it. Well, i’ve read the comments of almost everyone… and i’m 99% decided to buy it.
just a question for those who’ve had the Wagon R for long: did u get any mechanical problems etc with ur car; are u satisfied with it?
thanks for ur replies
March 3rd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Hi,
I’m using Wagon R for the last three years. and Believe me,the wagon r has much better pick up and top speed.
Till now there is no mechanical problems with my car.
March 8th, 2008 at 7:04 am
RECENTLY I PURCHASED WAGON R DUO LX MODEL 2006 IN A SHOW ROOM FOR RS.3,65,000/- (IAM THE FIRST OWNER ONLY) BUT WITHOUT POWER STEERING. IAM JUST LEARNING THE CAR. I FOUND THE CAR IS COMFORTABLE, EASY TO STEER, GOOD MILEAGE. WHAT MY REQUEST IS EVEN THOUGH IAM THE FIRST OWNER AND THE REGISTRATION OF THE VEHICLE IS YET TO TAKE PLACE, WHETHER IAM BENEFITED WITH THE PURCHASE OR NOT?
ADVANCE THANKS FOR GIVING A FAST REPLY
CHANDRASEKHAR
FROM HYDERABAD
March 9th, 2008 at 4:27 am
Hi Mr.Chandra
Definitely, a good bargain you have made. Congrats. Dont worry, power steering will
not be a problem at all. It is a feature.
Bi
Ramesh
from Bangalore
March 10th, 2008 at 2:28 am
Anyone compared Zen Estelio with Wagon R. The price is almost same. Other than outer look, and some additional features like power window, i didn’t find any difference. Which one will be better ?
March 12th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
HI MR.PRABHU,
GO FOR WAGON R. IT IS BETTER VEHICLE
March 12th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Prabhu: Take a look here -> http://www.bsmotoring.com/bsm/wcms/en/home/top_story/WagonR-vs-Zen-Estilo-070324.html
March 12th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Mahaa: I went through the same dilemma and posted my question here -> http://www.carwale.com/research/comparecars/default.aspx?car1=1289&car2=1161
March 18th, 2008 at 2:44 am
hi frienz…very nice to know that there are some ppl to really help persons who r in dilemma in making decisions with cars. I am planning to buy a used car and i have just learned driving…My preference is surely Maruti, so i go for maruti wagon r…I am planning to purchase second hand wagon r of 2003 model for a proce range of between 200000 n 230000…is this a gud way of starting my car deal? also after 2 years, will i be able to sell that with minimum depriciation atleast around 17000? will this go well in my way? plz post ur comments analyzing my position…my advance thanks to u all bcoz ur comments will be of very much helpful to me…have gud time
March 18th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Hai all,
I am very happy on visiting this blog. I have few doubts, I have to drive for 60-100Kms aday, 25days a month.I live in sub urban India. Roads can be really muddy in rainy season. I donot want to resale the car as long as it is serving the purpose. If wagon R with LPG kit Provided by the company itselt is used, will car performance decreases in long run. Santro XO 2006(oct)driven for 29,000kms, is being offered for 3,20,000 by my friend. IS it a good deal.Can I fit LPG/CNG to Santro XO, will it decrease its performance.Kindly advice me as this is going to be my first car, I learnt driving in Driving school and got licence after test, without approaching the broker.
Thankyou for your advice in advance
March 29th, 2008 at 7:03 am
hai receantlly i bought a santro xing xo car and i m sohappy with my BAD GUY i m calling to my santro.its gave me good mialage on the highway and also hilly road. friends u cant belive me its give great pick up on the hills compare then my last car weagon r.now i prefare my BAD GUY to go everywhere.. never confused to buy a santro bole to BAD GUY……………..
April 1st, 2008 at 6:44 am
Hi Friends,
It was very difficult to choose between Santro and WagonR, but i found WagonR more value for money hatchback.
I booked the WagonR (LXi petrol) about 1 week ago of Dusshera and got the car in Dusshera.
i liked the new wagonR looks. It is like mini SUV, with roofrails it looks superub. When ever u enter into car it give u a feel of lot of space than Santro. It is having more boot space then Santro also rear seat is cmpletely foldable.
After a lot of study i saw that technology used in WagonR is more advanced than Santro e.g
(1) WagonR engine is more compact and small but produces the same power as Santro
(2) Wagon R engine is having 4 cylinder 16 valves, which is 12 in Santro. More valves are always good for engines life since exsaust is good.
(3) Wagon R have Electronic Power Steering but Santro have old hydrolic PS.
(4) Wagon R is equipped with 32 bit on board microprocessor, since 32 bit processor are having more speed than 16 bit therefore it’s MPFI section is very efficient. Also many parts of the vehicle is microprocessor controlled.
Other than that i found more boot and leg space in WagonR than Snatro.
I found it’s drive extremely smooth. Pickup is too good without A/C, and cooling is fine infact people sitting in rear seat also sometimes feel shivering.
One problem i found that, when A/C is on with blower at max position, the power of the car goes down drastically.
So better option is to run the A/C in max position for few minutes then put the blower position to 2nd or 3rd position.
I hope that i cleared the doubt of many friends who r thinking between WagonR and Santro.
Of course if u want to go for look Santro is more good looking car, but if u go technologically WagonR is far ahead of Santro.
Think and Decide…
Regards
Pradipta B.
April 3rd, 2008 at 4:13 am
Hi Everyone
I am planning to buy a second hand car. It could be either a Wagon R or a Santro. As I have to travel for around 80-90 Kms every day, I prefer to use a CNG fuel in my car. Let me know which of these cars (Wagon R or Santro) would be better to use along with a CNG kit fitted in terms of mailage, perfomance, Maintenance etc.
Regards
Amarnath
April 6th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Hi
I am planning to buy a used Wagon R VXI, Model June 2007 offer price 3.4 lacs. Is it better deal.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:20 am
Hi Krishnan
If you are ready to spend 3.4 lacs on second hand vehicle, insted you can buy a new one for some extra bucks.. A new car of your colour choice and the new vehicle feeling is always better than a second hand vehicle.. more over if you think of selling the vehicle after sometime, new vehicle would always fetch you more as it would be second hand. wehre as if you buy a second hand and sell it after sometime will make it third hand which reduce its resale value by a good amount. If you are planning to take a loan to buy that second hand vehicle, the rate of interest is also more than for a first hand vehicle..
Now its your choice to decide..
Amar
April 16th, 2008 at 5:37 am
Hi,
Before i decide which car i should buy, i thought post it here.
Hyundai i10 and WagonR are my best cars so far. In these two cars, can anyone tell me which is the best and why?
Thanks and with regards,
Madhu
April 19th, 2008 at 2:05 am
Madhu,
Check the writeup on Hyundai i10.
http://cityblogger.com/archives/2008/04/15/hyundai-i10
i10 is an excellent car and has won the Car of the Year award. It also depends on your requirements.
Prakash
May 9th, 2008 at 12:20 am
hi every one…..reading all these comments for deciding on a new car is not good…those who own santro says it’s the best same for wagonr…
everyone please check (AUTOCAR JUNE 2007)..there is a coparsion on all b-segment cars…listen to experts not to owners
May 16th, 2008 at 5:36 am
WagonR is very very very superior to all cars of its category in the matter of pickup and flexibility.Easy U-turns can be taken effortlessly.
The MilkVan in Japan is just a derivative of wagonR and not exactly WagonR.
It is very true that Santro shakes after 90kmph.
I think people that Santro is best have not gone above90kph or have not driven a wagonr.
I always go smoothly through highways at 140-150kmph with easy and flexible overtakings in a WagonR.
What else do you want?The superior japanese technology says it all.
People in confusion for whether a santro or a WagonR may straight away
contact your nearest Maruti dealer and grab a WagonR.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:05 am
All bunch of biased decisions.
How can u get all features in these classes of cars. We are getting products and concepts that are decade old.
Go by your priority and budget:
My recommendation (i keep on changing cars every year or so, expect a honest feedback):
1. If you want comfort and space - Indica/Wagon-R. Pls don’t counter attack my statement saying it looks like a taxi. It is your money, you decide.
2. If you want pickup - Choose Wagon-R/Estilo/i10
3. Less Maintainence - Alto/Wagon-R/Santro
4. Fuel Economy - Alto/Estilo/i10
5. Hi-Tech and safety Features (Like B-segment) - Estilo/i10
6. Alternative Fuel - Wagon-R
7. Sun roof - i10/Estilo
Santro is out of date model, it makes sense to consider i10.
Wagon-R is still popular because of space features
8. Back-seat comfort: Indica/Estilo
9. Front-Seat comfort: Indica/Santro/i10
10. Accessories and Customization: i10/Estilo
Please note:
All these vehicles will have some pros and cons and all make noises and rattle. Visit your nearest service centre for packing the doors etc. to that u hear less noise.
Please do not talk of which vehicles that work best at 130 kmph. God forbid, any accident, you are not safe and whole vehicle will be useless
May 23rd, 2008 at 2:16 am
HI,
Can you pls tell me the difference between Santro Normal Model and Santro Xing.?
What features do Santro 2002 Model has ?
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:43 am
The Base of Santro is very heavy this is the reason its looks as its top is shaking.How many Santro’s you heard fall down by shaking.I always drive My Santro 120+ on highway.Once I touched 150.
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:49 am
paul says:
October 24th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
The wagon r shakes and makes noises over 90 km/hr i don’t understand why is it because the engine is still very new and not yet opened it has just done 200kms
July 3rd, 2008 at 5:49 am
I am planning to book ‘Wagon R-AX BS III-With immobaliser’ any feedback on the performance?Mileage?
July 12th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I purchased WagonR LXI 1 month back.A very nice car in city and highway.The only problem which I see is with the AC. You switch on the AC and pickup will reduce drastically.I have driven my WagonR on the speed of 120 and I didnt find it shaking.A very comfortable car specially if you have a height of >=6′.
Is it a 4 seater car??I thought it was a 5 seater.Can someone confirm on this?
July 19th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
I purchased WagonR LXI Duo. LPG tank capacity is 22 ltrs. and I get 250 KM for 22 ltrs in city and gues what happens when you go for Highway, its wooping 350 km for 22 ltrs. Can anyone tell me is there better car than this. With fuel prices getting higher, this is the best car (only car with LPG) in this segment, as of now.
So those of you care for fuel, this is the car for you.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:42 am
I own a santro GLS.
Prev owned a wagon R..I found both cars the same but wat mattered to me was the service provided to me by the dealer.
I hd a bad experience with Maruthi.They treated me well wen i went to pick the car but later wen i visited them wit prob n clarifications they ignored me. Tats not the same with Hyundai.From the date of delivery till u sell ur car they treat u the same..
So guys if ur looking for a cheaper one then its Wagon-R or if u want the looks n service its a Santro.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:44 am
Getting a DUO(petrol/gas) is a good idea but ur jst loosing out on luggage space buddy…
July 26th, 2008 at 3:06 am
I have used a wagonR for 4 years, 1lakh+ kms now.
No Engine trouble whatsoever
Minimal maintenance- limited to regular oil, filter change, breakpads, 1 set of tyres, battery and 1 clutch plate change which is certain for any car in 4 years and 100,000+ kms.
Also converted to CNG a year after purchase- No engine damage, no noise.
Excellent cooling in AC, way better than santro, loss of power with AC on full blower speed is obvious its only about 1000cc after all.
With proper wheel alignment and balancing there is no shaking or vibration upto 120-130kmph, touches 150 but obviously feels dangerous.
July 26th, 2008 at 3:08 am
and oh yes I forgot to mention whoever says WagonR is for 4 passengers need to get their record right, WagonR is meant for 5 passengers as mentioned in its specifications and the registration certificate. It is more spacious than santro.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:15 am
I had purchased a Wagon R LXI (Petrol) in May 08 & it has done 5057 km by now. I am already getting a mileage of 17.63 with AC on & that too in Delhi Traffic. My travel includes the Highly trafficed Ring Road, Naraina Stretch, Nizamuddin, ITO, Shershah Road as well.
September 7th, 2008 at 4:37 am
iam jiss…I want to buy a car…..I select 2 cars…….1.santro XING, 2.maruthI WAGOR R
which one i choose…please answeer and the reason….y?
ok,please replay me–iam waiting….help me….strictly said whatz u choose?,-(say 1 name)
October 12th, 2008 at 5:43 am
Hi,
I was little bit confused whether to select Santro or Wagon R. Now I have selected Wagon R after going through 611 comments.
I agree that Santro is a good vehicle, but Wagon R has the upper hand.
October 18th, 2008 at 6:59 am
I am one like many on this discussion, wondering whether to pick up a wagon R or santro. I wanted to pick up the wagon R because it was the only one with LPG and since i put in lot of miles everyday. Also since am tall it is easy to get in. I had almost settled for the wagon R till i saw the santro LPG version. Am now trying to decide between the two. Anyone has an opinion on the comparison of the LPG version of both these.
Cheers
Anil
October 18th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
The wagon r duo is the best mileage giving car. Well it gives me 17 on a litre of gas.
Wagon R is the ultimate verdict from the Maruti stable. Never think of buying anything else even after reading so many testimonials for the wagon.
October 20th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Hi,
I own a Santro & I have friends who own WagonR. I think both the cars are equally good. There are some unique features of both the cars. So both are winners. Happy Driving.
November 6th, 2008 at 6:45 am
Hi guys
I bought a Santro Zip-Plus automatic 2nd hand, 2yrs back. I now want to go for a new automatic car within 5L budget.
What are the options I have?
Is the automatic model in WagonR still available from Maruti?
Pls.advise.
Thanks.
Prabhu,Chennai
November 9th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
I think WagonR is the best choice when compared to Santro, In terms of service and cost of spares. But for the guys who are not care for money but style gop for santro. the weak point of wagon r is its indian label.
November 10th, 2008 at 2:33 am
Well, I own a 2001 Santro - I am the 2nd owner, bought the car in 2006. I must say that it is reliable if maintained properly. I have never had a breakdown inspite of it being so old. The only problem I had was a bad battery which I replaced. However I would not rate the service centre(s) highly - they are lousy (most of them charge heftily for small things and are careless). As for performance, the car is stable even at speeds of 120km/h - it can reach this speed quite easily and is capable of more.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:31 am
I own a Santro XL, comfort is definitely good, even at higher speeds i dont see vibrations and driving long distances also you dont feel any discomfort! mileage is around 17.5kmpl in my recent drive 450 kms drive. and in city with moderate traffic conditions today morning it gave 15 kmpl. Also the rear seats are comfortable for 3 people but in wagon R this is the drawback, only two can be seated…also the better leg space in wagonR is due to modification of seat in wagonR, if you see the length of the seat is more in santro compared to wagonR….so santro rear seats rests you thighs and gives you better comfort whereas the wagonR to give the “better leg space” impression has reduced the seat length and doesnot give good comfort is what I think.
December 14th, 2008 at 11:33 am
this site is too good. One can collect lots of information about selecting a car. But still then i would like to know more about the comparison between WagonR & Santro Xing, as I’m also in the same dilemma. PLease suggest about this.
December 19th, 2008 at 1:43 am
hi,
anybody can send me santro xing xg model’s manual??i have recently bought a 2nd hand but dont have themanual/ guide…it will be gr8 if anyone of you can mailme the manual at vatts_2000@yahoo.com
December 30th, 2008 at 7:34 am
i had been with both the cars , now i m using a wogon r Vxi.. i fee wagon r is better in all the aspects ,so i would prefer the confused minds to go for wagon r .. the only advantage for santro is the looks.. but now i feel wagor .r is as good as santro
Cheers
gireesh_chinnu2001@yahoo.com
January 5th, 2009 at 5:27 am
yes,wagon r is fa better car than santo.wagon r is smoother than santro,its looks marvellous,mileeage is verry good.i prefer wagon r to buy,between wagon r and santro.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
hey prabhu/anyone else
Incase anyone on the blog is interested in selling their Automatic Santro here in Chennai, please give me a call i would be interested to buy. Thanks..deepak 9841401207
January 15th, 2009 at 1:04 am
I own a santro that is a year old. I am getting a mileage of around 18- 19 in city. Also I find that the car has phenomemnal strength. I was rammed from the back By a loaded and speeding tempo auto. And all that happened was that the tail lamp broke. I had no other damage of any kind. And the replacement was 750 with labout. All in all I love the santro over the wagon r only because of this. the body of any maruthi dings like tissue paper. It cannot withstand the smallest of im[acts. Sad
January 19th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I m planning tobuy Wagon r .Anyone can tell hw long this car is available in car world.
January 23rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
i think wr will available till sep’09, in car world
February 22nd, 2009 at 11:32 am
hey buddy i have both the cars.
I had buy the santro xing gls model in last september and buy the wagon r lxi model a month ago.I want to express my views which would help u in purchasing a car.My intension is not to hurt anyone.
what i feel is advantage of santro xing :
-> too much comfortable seating.
-> good brakes.
-> side mirror adjustment within the car is too good feature added to xing
-> Awesome design and looks great
-> Gear lock system is pin type which is good from safety purpose.
->Engine is good and good pickup
Advantage of wagon r :
_>ecm system
good pickup than xing
good handling..steering is very light as compared to xing steering..altough xing steering is also good but not compared to wagon r.
disadvantage of wagon r accd to me as compared to xing :
-> not much comfortable.
-> side mirrors are very bad
-> gear lock is u type which creates problem when u changes the posn of ur seat or other front seat…gear lock stuck in the way of front seat
-> Design is not good…santro design is awesome….
-> brakes are not good as compared to xing
OVerall i can say from my experiance….maruti service is good…but hyundai is awesome..i like it very much..and everyone say wagon r is havng good pickup and mileage..i agree with them but santro is also having good pickup..my both cars are new and I love to drive the xing rather than hyundai wagon r !!
Hope it will help u
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Hi, i own a Santro xing eRLX Jan 2007 model. Has run 24500 kms. I am thinking of selling it. What is the price i can expect?
April 13th, 2009 at 5:31 am
Can any one help me please?
I have a Santro of 1999 and i am planning to install CNG kit for the same.. Is it advisable as the car is old model..
Please help me
June 19th, 2009 at 12:48 am
Can anyone share the experience on WagaonR DUO Lxi?
Does that have option of ABS and Safety Bags?
Does LPG impacts the speed, pickup or overall performance?
June 21st, 2009 at 2:03 am
Hi Friends ,
I am looking for a new car in the range of 3.5 to 4 lac max . After a bit of search and friends opinion , narrowed down to Wagon R or Santro Xing . Initially we decided on Wagon R but lately some of our relatives was telling Hyundai Santro would be more preferable .
I am looking for performance , space and maintanence as it would be mostly run by my parents. I could understand both the cars are in a same segment and has equally pros & cons .
But to my requirements , can anyone share some thoughts.It would be much appreciated.